Curse

ryu_okunato · Feb 09, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

This is one for a Dervish hero that I used a while back, it works really well for spiking down targets quickly:

[card]Avatar Of Lyssa[/card][card]Heart Of Fury[/card][card]Heart Of Holy Flame[/card][card]Mystic Sweep[/card][card]Eremite's Attack[/card][card]Mystic Regeneration[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]

Code: OgijkyrIrOxXx94l73cZus3kLA

Ranger:
This is the code for a Ebon Dust Volley Build:
[card]Ebon Dust Aura[/card][card]Distracting Shot[/card][card]Savage Shot[/card][card]Natural Stride[/card][card]Troll Unguent[/card][card]Favorable Winds[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
OgokcpYWWuqE4GY4jhqxvmvB2hAA

or you could use a simple BA ranger (with an epidemic twist):
[card]Burning Arrow[/card][card]Distracting Shot[/card][card]Savage Shot[/card][card]Epidemic[/card][card]Apply Poison[/card][card]Natural Stride[/card][card]Troll Unguent[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
OgUTcVsm3R3+YUNOhZzv23IAAA

The BA epidemic works well with the Surging Channeler ele below as it can spread the conditions which they both inflict.

This is for the Surge Channeler E/Rt:
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Im afraid i dont usually use warrior heroes, so i cant give you any advice there.

very very nice, tyvm, would any runes be recommended for these builds? and also for the ebon volley build, do u need an earth weapon?

distilledwill · Feb 09, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by ryu_okunato

very very nice, tyvm, would any runes be recommended for these builds? and also for the ebon volley build, do u need an earth weapon?

Yep, you will need an earth bow to make EDA work.

In terms of runes Id use a minor marks and a minor expertise for both of the ranger builds and minors in mysticism, earth prayers and scythe mastery for the dervish.

Use a Marks mask for both ranger builds and you can choose between a Mysticism and Scythe Mastery hood for the Dervish.. cant remember which one I used.

Marverick · Feb 09, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

I'd run expertise mask instead of marks because you'll probably want at least 13 or 14 expertise.

ryu_okunato · Feb 10, 2008, 05:02 AM // 05:02

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

Yep, you will need an earth bow to make EDA work.

In terms of runes Id use a minor marks and a minor expertise for both of the ranger builds and minors in mysticism, earth prayers and scythe mastery for the dervish.

Use a Marks mask for both ranger builds and you can choose between a Mysticism and Scythe Mastery hood for the Dervish.. cant remember which one I used.

awesome, may i ask y the surgechanneler doesn't have a self-heal?(sry for all the questions)

Darkside · Feb 10, 2008, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by stef247

The sabway is really nice working in Tyria HM..but in EotN or Factions it's kinda hard to survive.

I picked the three necros, one NPC monk and I am a HB heal party monk...but somehow we are taking massive dmg and 3 (!) healers aren't able to outheal..

You should try running a smiting build with some pve skills in it. I find it a lot easier to kill stuff h/h when I run an offensive build on my monk. The heroes and henchmen seem to be a little stupid when you aren't constantly targeting enemies for them.

distilledwill · Feb 10, 2008, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by ryu_okunato

awesome, may i ask y the surgechanneler doesn't have a self-heal?(sry for all the questions)

No problem.

He doesnt have a heal because I always run with another dedicated healer hero, whether that be the WoH hybrid, N/Rt healer or a dual Paragon setup, hes more than safe without a heal.

ryu_okunato · Feb 10, 2008, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

No problem.

He doesnt have a heal because I always run with another dedicated healer hero, whether that be the WoH hybrid, N/Rt healer or a dual Paragon setup, hes more than safe without a heal.

oh ok tat does make since, tyvm

btw does anyone know where i can easily get a 40% HCT, 20% longer enchanting Death staff?

cyber88 · Feb 11, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Darkside

You should try running a smiting build with some pve skills in it. I find it a lot easier to kill stuff h/h when I run an offensive build on my monk. The heroes and henchmen seem to be a little stupid when you aren't constantly targeting enemies for them.

I 2nd that. Smiting builds are underated. If you are running a healing build for your main char, it will screw up even more on the screwed up AI.

I run a signet smiter build with 3 pve skills. It helps a lot as the Sabway (the 1 team build I usually use) has enough defensive skills in them. People finding it hard to survive using Sabway is because they are too defensive. Try a little more offense. You will see a difference.

Abonai Laguna · Feb 11, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

He guys I'm trying to make a synergy for my Elementalist. I think the best elite to take for any situation would be Searing Flames. Because:
1: It does damage to an area.
2: The foes still get hit even though they scatter.
3: Burning it self does already does also a lot of damage.

So how to get most out of burning?

Me
[skill]Searing Flames[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Steam[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Aura of restoration[/skill][skill]Fire attunement[/skill] & [skill]Rebirth[/skill] or [skill]Signet of capture[/skill]
Sac Ms for instant kd. Steam for close by foes. Steam can be swapped for pve skill, or util skill.

Zhed
[skill]Searing Flames[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Mark of Rodgort[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Ward Against Melee[/skill][skill]Power Drain[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
Ward for close by foes. Power drain for interrupt and energy management.

Morghan
[skill]Merciless Spear[/skill][skill]"They're on fire!"[/skill][skill]"Watch yourself!"[/skill][skill]Song of Restoration[/skill][skill]Ballad of Restoration[/skill][skill]Glowing Signet[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill]
Tof 25% reduction. WY armor bonus + energy management. SOR + BOR party heal. Merciless for deepwound.

Olias
[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Mark of Pain[/skill][skill]Enfeebling Blood[/skill][skill]Rip Enchantment[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]
Enfeeble for weakness, Rip enchantment removal.

Perhaps switch out [skill]Mark of Pain[/skill] for [skill]Blood of the Master[/skill]All suggestions are welcome

Rebirth is only used in case of party wipe and i am the last man standing. But yeah maybe swap for death pact signet

I have used this one for ages, before you posted. Although, I didn't use Mark of Rodgort, but I used Liquid Flame, since It's also good to kind of fast kill quickly tied mobs (Since they actually almost ALWAYS cast or attack)

brakner · Feb 11, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

What do you guys think of this version for boss killing? I use to gimp Olias MM build to Blood/Prot, then thought of changing Livia to a Blood/Resto hybrid. She loses WoR and Splinter for SV and Blood Battery for the rest of the H/H crew. I found the Henchman Prot Monk performed way better with +7 Energy regen

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Take Pain Inverter yourself and you make short work of bosses

N/Rt
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Reckless Haste[/skill][skill]Enfeebling Blood[/skill][skill]Barbs[/skill][skill]Mark of Pain[/skill][skill]Power Drain[/skill][skill]Leech Signet[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill]

Curses Magic: 12+1+2
Soul Reaping: 9+1
Inspiration Magic: 9

N/Rt
[skill]Spoil Victor[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Mend Body and Soul[/skill][skill]Spirit Light[/skill][skill]Protective was Kaolai[/skill][skill]Life[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

Blood Magic: 11 +1 +3
Soul Reaping: 9+1
Restoration Magic:10

N/Mo
[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Blood of the Master[/skill][skill]Extinguish[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill]

Death Magic: 12+1+3
Soul Reaping: 9+1
Protection Prayers: 9

Abonai Laguna · Feb 11, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Quick question. pn the sab healer, is Spirit Light Weapon an option

tuna-fish_sushi · Feb 11, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Probably been posted before but... The Three Ebon Vanguard Wards go VERY well with sabs 3 necro build.

Sab · Feb 12, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

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Originally Posted by Abonai Laguna

Quick question. pn the sab healer, is Spirit Light Weapon an option

SLW is alright, it doesn't really do anything that Mend Body/Spirit Light doesn't already do though. I'd suggest Icy Veins or Spoil if you want more damage out of that character.

Mickey · Feb 12, 2008, 05:54 AM // 05:54

I've had alot of fun using these builds:

[skill]Mind Blast[/skill][skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill][skill]liquid flame[/skill][skill]glyph of elemental power[/skill][skill]fire attunement[/skill][skill]weapon of warding[/skill][skill]wielder's boon[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]

[skill]animate bone horror[/skill][skill]animate flesh golem[/skill][skill]death nova[/skill][skill]blood of the master[/skill][skill]weapon of warding[/skill][skill]wielder's boon[/skill][skill]signet of lost souls[/skill][skill]death pact signet[/skill]

Flesh Golem is terribad, I know, but I accidentally bought the Factions unlock pack and not the NF one -_-

brakner · Feb 12, 2008, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Flesh Golem is terribad, I know, but I accidentally bought the Factions unlock pack and not the NF one -_-

I find Flesh golem is quite good when you are in an area light on corpses or you need lots of sustainable DPS,Olias sometimes forgets to re-summon during fights when he is minion bombing . I use this when I am trying to do fast DPS and want to keep the minions alive like in Slavers Exile. Don't believe the few negative comments, he has good DPS and can take a huge beating with all the Prot spells on him.

[skill]Animate Flesh Golem[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Fiend[/skill][skill]Animate Shambling Horror[/skill][skill]Blood of the Master[/skill][skill]Extinguish[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill]

The reason I chose Shambling Horror's over Bone Horror's is the ratio of melee minions to range. With this setup it forces your MM to make one Flesh, 5 or 6 Fiends and 2 or 3 Shamblings ( which then become Barbed when they die ), which makes for great burst range DPS.

P.S. the other 2 Heroes slots are Sab's SS nec and Rit healer

ryu_okunato · Feb 17, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22

hey guys i wonder if this is good but yesterday i was vanquishing with somepeople and i brought my mm hero but someone said tat we needed blood ritual so wat i did was replace the two prots wit blood ritual and dark bond and even though it worked tat other time i'm still wondering if its a good idea in general.

ryu_okunato · Feb 17, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

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Originally Posted by Sab

8-man version

N/Rt
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Reckless Haste[/skill][skill]Enfeebling Blood[/skill][skill]Barbs[/skill][skill]Rip Enchantment[/skill]

[skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

[SS Necro;OAhjYwHc4Q5BCN2BlB7OYgVVJXA]

Curses: 12+1+1
Soul Reaping: 12+1
Restoration Magic: 3

Insignias: Tormenter's on chest and legs, survivors on the rest.

Equipment: 20/20 Curses wand, 20/20 Curses offhand.

Variants: Rip/Pure Was for Splinter/Ancestors, Reckless for Insidious Parasite.

N/Rt
[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill][skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill][skill]Mend Body and Soul[/skill][skill]Spirit Light[/skill][skill]Protective was Kaolai[/skill][skill]Life[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

[WoR Necro Healer;OAhjYghsoOYbMm0cyNMHnV1kL]

Soul Reaping: 8+1+1
Restoration Magic: 12
Channeling Magic: 10

Insignias: Tormenter's on chest and legs, survivors on the rest.

Equipment: 20/20 Resto wand, 20/20 Resto offhand.

Variants: WoR/Splinter for Icy Veins/Weapon of Warding or Spoil Victor/Weapon of Warding, Death Pact for Ancestors.

N/Mo
[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Blood of the Master[/skill][skill]Remove Hex[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill]

[Jagged MM;OANTUYT+yZpWFQD4hWS9IgUVB]

Death Magic: 12+1+1 or 12+1+3
Soul Reaping: 9+1
Protection Prayers: 9

Insignias: Tormenter's on chest and legs, Bloodstained on hands, survivors on the rest.

Equipment: 40% HCT, 20% longer enchanting Death staff.

Variants: Monk skills for Putrid Bile/Ancestors/Splinter.

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4-Man version

N/Rt
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Reckless Haste[/skill][skill]Enfeebling Blood[/skill][skill]Barbs[/skill][skill]Rip Enchantment[/skill][skill]Ancestors' Rage[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

[SS Necro;OAhjYkHsYO5BhmdoMs78mV1kLA]

Curses: 12+1+1
Soul Reaping: 9+1
Channeling Magic: 9

N/Rt
[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill][skill]Ancestors' Rage[/skill][skill]Mend Body and Soul[/skill][skill]Spirit Light[/skill][skill]Protective was Kaolai[/skill][skill]Life[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

[WoR Necro Healer;OAhjYghsoOYbvp0cyNMHnV1kLA]

Restoration Magic: 12
Soul Reaping: 8+1+1
Channeling Magic: 10

N/Mo
[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Blood of the Master[/skill][skill]Remove Hex[/skill][skill]Guardian[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill]

[Jagged MM;OANDUslfOL1qAeAN0SEI1jqK]

Death Magic: 12+1+1 or 12+1+3
Soul Reaping: 9+1
Protection Prayers: 9

do u have one for 6-man or is it the same as one of the other two?

Mr Pink57 · Feb 18, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by ryu_okunato

do u have one for 6-man or is it the same as one of the other two?

For 6 man I put Splinter back on but keep AR as I take a war along, plus any excuse to drop Pure is great for me being a Paragon :/

pink

Sorn Xarann · Feb 18, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Does the Death Pact Signet nerf affect the builds at all?'

From 2 second cast and 8 recharge to
3 second cast and 12 recharge.

Antithesis · Feb 18, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

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Originally Posted by Sorn Xarann

Does the Death Pact Signet nerf affect the builds at all?'

From 2 second cast and 8 recharge to
3 second cast and 12 recharge.

1 sec more for a hard res makes no difference in PvE. If you need to use the sig twice in 12 secs, roll your build again.