Curse

cyber88 · Oct 19, 2007, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Hmmmzzzz....interesting thought. Putrid Bile & Rising Bile seems to be the new deadly combi since the launch of EoTN. The potential killing power (I have only read the description & not actually used it. :P) is great. If these 2 skills synergize, it will hav a lot mass spiking aoe damage.

Whirlwind · Oct 19, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

You really should use the Prot hench. In HM i take both the healer and prot monks.

All preference really, i take mhenlo for LoD but ill give alesia a shot ) After watching a hero run ZB tho its iffy at best (

blue.rellik · Oct 19, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Death Pact Signet is so awesome, if I ever do have problems and would cause to wipe after a long battle then it would mean that Livia or MoW or whoever won't have the 15% DP

SotiCoto · Oct 19, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Sab

Extinguish, Shield of Absorption, Rising Bile, Putrid Bile.

1) I guess you can drop Vengeful Weapon, but I find that Rejuvenation overheals too much to be worth a slot on any bar.

2) If you'd rather have a few more HP per heal over infinite energy, then run a Rt/X healer. Resto spirits don't rely on the spirit's HP except for Rejuvination, but like I said, I don't use it. There's basically no point running 12 Spawning for Recup, Life or Recovery.

In any case, Boon of Creation is pretty bad on a Resto Rit, where you have one or two spirits on your bar. The energy you gain from it barely makes up for the energy you spend casting it. Boon is more suited to a Communing Rit, where your bar is packed with spirits and you can actually gain a decent amount of energy back.

Fair enough, I suppose.
I wouldn't necessarily consider "overheal" to be a bad thing... but then I can see the benefits of sticking with Vengeful Weapon instead.
As regards Boon of Creation though.... I actually found with my own Heal Rit that Boon essentially funds her other heals by using it to refresh Rejuvination and Life whenever possible (or rather she was doing something useful for no extra energy cost, giving a bit of time for it to regen).... though admittedly, even before I got Attuned was Songkai for her, she was using Soothing Memories with Tsungrai for energy return as well.

*Shrugs*

I haven't really had the chance to test things as they are yet.... but I'll be getting to that now.
Thanks for the group build.

Lenard DeMeth · Oct 20, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15

Great build and works very well I think in HM. One suggestion though is that I personally think that using Spirit Bond instead of Prot Spirit on the MM is a better option due to the heal you get from Spirit Bond instead of just dmg reduction of Prot Spirit.

Cobalt · Oct 21, 2007, 12:28 PM // 12:28

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Originally Posted by Bibblenorn

Has this team been tried in UW or FoW?

I have been really enjoying this team. Makes some areas managable that weren't before. I plan to test out the updated team tomorrow.

I don't think 4 manning it in FoW with this build would work as you need to rack up some kills to get it rolling and there is not enough fire power to take out the first couple FoW mobs to do it.

However with henches you could but I know you can't take henches in Prophecies as the henches are not level 20 in that area but perhaps accessing FoW in Nightfall's Chantry you can as the henches in that area are level 20, not sure though.

sussuara · Oct 21, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Well, anyone could post a good SV necro build for this team ? Saaaaab <3

Sab · Oct 21, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Lenard DeMeth

Great build and works very well I think in HM. One suggestion though is that I personally think that using Spirit Bond instead of Prot Spirit on the MM is a better option due to the heal you get from Spirit Bond instead of just dmg reduction of Prot Spirit.

Spirit Bond is great if you're taking 80-100 damage, but PS is better if you're taking 300 damage from an Ele boss, and I chose PS for the latter reason.

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Originally Posted by sussuara

Well, anyone could post a good SV necro build for this team ? Saaaaab <3

I usually don't run SV because the rest of the Blood skills are pretty bad. But if you must:

N/Mo

Blood: 12+1+1
Prot: 9
Soul: 9+1

Spoil Victor
Blood Ritual
Shield of Absorption
Extinguish
Protective Spirit/Spirit Bond
Aegis
Signet of Lost Souls
Resurrection Signet

Drop the Prot from the MM and bring some Death stuff, like Putrid/Rising Bile.

Marverick · Oct 21, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Is Protective Was Kaolai really useful on heroes? They never seemed to drop it for the party heal and it just acted as +24 armor for them...

I Might Avenge U · Oct 21, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Any way a mes could synergize with this build?

Even I doubt it, but I want to use my gwen. So Saaaaab <3 ? (apparently it worked last time... )

cyber88 · Oct 22, 2007, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by Lenard DeMeth

Great build and works very well I think in HM. One suggestion though is that I personally think that using Spirit Bond instead of Prot Spirit on the MM is a better option due to the heal you get from Spirit Bond instead of just dmg reduction of Prot Spirit.

Don't know about spirit bond or PS but after taking the hardest areas in Tyria (southern shiverpeaks & ring of fire islands) in HM, It does work in HM, just need to manage the aggro.

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Originally Posted by Marverick

Is Protective Was Kaolai really useful on heroes? They never seemed to drop it for the party heal and it just acted as +24 armor for them...

They do. Mine does it twice in a row when my team got spike damage.

«Ripskin · Oct 22, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53

The only problem I see with this build is the complete lack of interuptions. This would work in eotn with an interupt henchmen, but not really anywhere else.

I tried to vanquish the place outside of sardelac with this. It's really slow getting started (especially if you're up against a monk) but it got faster.

Finally I whiped because of stupid heroes. No build can fix stupid heroes.

T N Player · Oct 22, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

i am trying sab's build but the only question i have is that wat henchs should i bring. i am a d slash warrior right now.

sussuara · Oct 22, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14

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Originally Posted by Sab

Spirit Bond is great if you're taking 80-100 damage, but PS is better if you're taking 300 damage from an Ele boss, and I chose PS for the latter reason.

I usually don't run SV because the rest of the Blood skills are pretty bad. But if you must:

N/Mo

Blood: 12+1+1
Prot: 9
Soul: 9+1

Spoil Victor
Blood Ritual
Shield of Absorption
Extinguish
Protective Spirit/Spirit Bond
Aegis
Signet of Lost Souls
Death Pact Signet

Drop the Prot from the MM and bring some Death stuff, like Putrid/Rising Bile.

Thanks a lot Sab, in slayer's exile a SV necro speed things up

Mohnzh · Oct 22, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Build still going strong for me. With regards to vanquishing, 6-manned Ascalon Foothills and the area adjacent. 4-manned the rest of Ascalon so far. Since I'm a monk, I can't do the initial kills, so I go as Mo/R and bring a pet. Only three in beast mast, but it is usually good enough to get the ball rolling with the minions.

Also got masters easily in Gate of Pain and Dzagonur on NM. Had to replace Livia wth Dunk in Gate of Pain.

For me, Livia is excellent at timing her Protective was Kaoli drop right after spike damage. She does it better than I could do.

Sab · Oct 23, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

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Originally Posted by Marverick

Is Protective Was Kaolai really useful on heroes? They never seemed to drop it for the party heal and it just acted as +24 armor for them...

They've always used it properly for me.

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Originally Posted by T N Player

i am trying sab's build but the only question i have is that wat henchs should i bring. i am a d slash warrior right now.

In Normal Mode, bring one Monk and three damage dealers (usually Warriors/Eles).

In Hard Mode, bring two Monks and two damage dealers (Warriors/Eles).

Steboy93 · Oct 23, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Hi ihave just started to use this build and it works great. I breezed through the first 2 tyria missions on hard mode and 'The Last Day Dawns' titan quest with no deaths at all

I'm going to move on to use it in harder areas while going for my guardian titles. Thanks for the great build sab

karunpav · Oct 23, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Sab

N/Mo

Blood: 12+1+1
Prot: 9
Soul: 9+1

Spoil Victor
Blood Ritual
Shield of Absorption
Extinguish
Protective Spirit/Spirit Bond
Aegis
Signet of Lost Souls
Death Pact Signet

3 professions is hax, imo.

also, on your build, is Death Nova really worth it? with Protective Spirt, your minions won't be taking too much damage so it seems like a waste to me.

~ Dan ~ · Oct 23, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by karunpav

3 professions is hax, imo.

also, on your build, is Death Nova really worth it? with Protective Spirt, your minions won't be taking too much damage so it seems like a waste to me.

You could always disable PS to prevent it being wasted on minions..

shrillex · Oct 23, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

do the builds work in gwen?