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ElnoreVarda · May 28, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

If this has been asked before, Im sorry for posting it again but i couldnt find any thread that answers my question.

Do different heroes of the same profession use skills differently? Sometimes I see people say thing like " Xandra is bad with it but Razah uses it just fine [Energetic Was Lee Sa]". Is this true? And if it is, has there been any attempts to research the different behaviours?

madmax0877 · May 28, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

I don't know if any research has been done, but I can tell you with the triple necro build (Sabway), if mine are not set up like:
Livia - Spiteful Spirit
Olias - Minion Bomber
Master - N/Rt Healer
they all die repeatedly (regardless of weapons/runes/etc).

Satu-Wyvern · May 28, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

I use Sabway with:
Olias: Minion Bomber
Master of Whispers: Spiteful Spirit
Livia: N/Rt healer

The only difficulty I have is Mof W sometimes runs amok even on guard. However I notice this happens with most hero's I put in the second hero space.

I have no found no difference between Xandra and Razah.

Randvek · May 28, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

People swear there's a difference between Zhed/Sousuke/Vekk, but I haven't seen one.

Richardt · May 28, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

I've never noticed any hero acting differently, however every so often a hero will "bug out" and do something that it wouldn't normally do, leading some to think that there is a difference.

Draikin · May 28, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElnoreVarda

Is this true?

No, it's not.

Sethellington · May 28, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

i use
MoW / Bomber
Olias / Resto
Livia / SS

haha we all use it differently ^^ mine works fine incase it makes a difference.

Golgotha · May 29, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10

MoW - Bomber
Livia - Rt Healer
Olias - SS

No problems.

-Lotus- · May 29, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13

they are all the same. its just a superstitious sort of thing. give them all the same build and watch them sync-cast.

Destromath · May 29, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Lotus-

they are all the same. its just a superstitious sort of thing. give them all the same build and watch them sync-cast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randvek

People swear there's a difference between Zhed/Sousuke/Vekk, but I haven't seen one.

Try giving Zhed, Vekk, and Acolyte Sousuke all Elemental Attunement and Fire Attunement. For me, Zhed casts Elemental Attunement first, followed by Fire Attunement, but Vekk and Sousuke cast Fire Attunement before Elemental Attunement. It's a very minor difference, but it proves that they have at least slightly different AI.

Bront · May 29, 2008, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Try this thread here

But, basically, there isn't one, and chances are any differences you notice may be equipment based.

-Lotus- · May 29, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destromath

Try giving Zhed, Vekk, and Acolyte Sousuke all Elemental Attunement and Fire Attunement. For me, Zhed casts Elemental Attunement first, followed by Fire Attunement, but Vekk and Sousuke cast Fire Attunement before Elemental Attunement. It's a very minor difference, but it proves that they have at least slightly different AI.

they all cast the same skills at the same time if you give them the same skill bar. try giving them the same skills, something else on the bar is obviously effecting them

zwei2stein · May 29, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Also, equipment and attribute spreads effects them. As well as current health and enemy proximity.

ALF71BE · May 29, 2008, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Lawl. You shoulda have readed alliance chat other day. Some people pretty weird saying:

Vekk is air ele.
Sousuke is fire.
Zhed is fire.
Olias is MM.
Livia is Blood spiker (lulwtf?).
MoW is Curses of course.
Koss is sword.
Classical: Tahlk is prot, Dunk is heal. Like if AI could prot.

Seriously, people should start realizing that the build the hero comes with sucks, and at any case they don't belong to the line they came with. And btw, Zhed is originally water.

However I see a tendency of MoW dying. And he has even more health than me o.O. Pretty much like Dunham, but now they focus on MoW.

sixofone · May 29, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

It's hard to tell. I don't think they have different AI's, but I have noticed that the AI behaves differently - sometimes from day to day! So, the same hero will use their skill set differently in the same area depending on - ?? - no idea.

To test hero AI, you'd have to have the same build, and equipment, on each and take them into the same area and (hopefully) have them engage mobs at the same time.

Anyone else notice heroes behaving differently lately? Skills they used before, they're not using - or not using as well?

greaterlych · May 31, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destromath

Try giving Zhed, Vekk, and Acolyte Sousuke all Elemental Attunement and Fire Attunement. For me, Zhed casts Elemental Attunement first, followed by Fire Attunement, but Vekk and Sousuke cast Fire Attunement before Elemental Attunement. It's a very minor difference, but it proves that they have at least slightly different AI.

The AI doesn't cast two identical enchants at the same time. I think it's to prevent them from protting the same target with the same spell at the same time. Throw each attunement spell on the three ele heroes and enter a zone. They will all cast their attunement spells but will never activate a spell while another one is already casting it.

-Lotus- · May 31, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by greaterlych

The AI doesn't cast two identical enchants at the same time. I think it's to prevent them from protting the same target with the same spell at the same time. Throw each attunement spell on the three ele heroes and enter a zone. They will all cast their attunement spells but will never activate a spell while another one is already casting it.

mine sync-cast

The Meth · Jun 01, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Just think to yourself: Anet obviously puts a very small amount of time into designing the AI for heroes and henchmen. Do you think they would make 31 different Hero AI's when they could have just used the same ones for each class?

FoxBat · Jun 01, 2008, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Hero Battles would be abusing this if it was true. They aren't.

valtonray · Jun 03, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

i hve noticed slight diffrences in the monks dunkoro is much more likely to fight instead of auto heal if you don't micro manage him and on my enery effecient monk build tahkora(sp?) doesn't seem to use the sigs as often giving here energy managment issues. i tend to micro manage my monks though. olias is a much better mm than master also as he automatically summons minions from corpses that master sometimes ignores. but at the same time master will cast SS on diffrent enemies whereas olias has a tendency to spam the same one repeatedly