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Destro Maniak · Sep 26, 2008, 09:33 PM // 21:33

On my sabway build I use xinrae's weapon isntead of weapon of remedy and Im REALLY happy with it

is there a reason I dont know that makes people use wor cause the remobe 1 condition is nothing reasonable imo

xinrae heals more/makes you get %5 of max hp

so can someone explain?

legacyofkain85 · Sep 26, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38

people like to copy/paste builds without thinking for themselves,i stoped using wor on mi n/rt ages ago it isnt that great as people think it is i mean elite vengeful weapon+cond removal.

Tyla · Sep 26, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

WoR is a good skill when it comes to the utility of it.

Xinrae's is also a good choice, but I thought that heroes didn't pre-prot effectively with it?

Rakim B · Sep 26, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

they do different things, use them in different situations. The actual answer is that you won't notice a difference at all in pve

Sakura Az · Sep 26, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

i use WoR in condition heavy zones, and Xinrae's in places with fewer conditions, works for me. i like them both.

AKB48 · Sep 26, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

same thing....WoR is slightly better imo

ivan.alicard · Sep 26, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

because wor was in the original build and xinrae didn't get any attention until it got buff awhile back.

faraaz · Sep 26, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

I prefer Weapon of Remedy...Xinrae is nice and all, but WoR is a lot more "fire and forget" kinda spell, as far as build construction is concerned...lot more robust, if you know what I mean?

I wouldn't kick a guy from my group for using Xinrae over WoR...but I prefer WoR on my heroes.

Tyla · Sep 27, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

How is WoR fire and forget? It's more active than anything else.

dilan155 · Sep 27, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

their both good elites, the only reason ppl didnt notice it until a while ago is because xinare was very bad until a buff a few weeks ago.

faraaz · Sep 27, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by Tyla

How is WoR fire and forget? It's more active than anything else.

Fire and forget in the sense it still does its job, which is healing. The condition removal is gravy. Maybe I misspoke.

Destro Maniak · Sep 27, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

I feel better now cause I was thinking something was wrong with me because everyone used wor :P

MercenaryKnight · Sep 27, 2008, 05:22 AM // 05:22

WoR is spammed a lot more by heroes. The second you get a condition they'll put it on you. For some reason xinrea's weapon doesn't seem to be spammed as much for pre protection reasons. If the ai was better at using it similar to protective spirit (as in before your going to start getting attacked) it would be a lot better.

-Lotus- · Sep 27, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13

heroes dont use Xw. they do use WoR.

Teutonic Paladin · Sep 27, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

They use it when you click the skill.

Destro Maniak · Sep 27, 2008, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Im going to monitor the usage of the xanrea weapon on a vanq, but it seems as if my livia cast Xinrea weapon on me BEFORE I engage battel(Im assassin)
Sı my heroes use it as prot spirit but Im gonna monitor asap

DarkSpirit · Sep 29, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

heroes dont use Xw. they do use WoR.

They do use it. It only looks like they dont use it because the other skills on their bar take higher precedence. If you disable Weapon of Warding, you will see it used more often.

Heroes use Xinrae's as a protection spell (like WoW) but use WoR as a condition remover. Weapon of Shadow synergizes with Xinrae better than WoW. If your healer already brings Foul Feast, it makes more sense to bring Xinrae's over WoR.

-Lotus- · Sep 29, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit

They do use it. It only looks like they dont use it because the other skills on their bar take higher precedence. If you disable Weapon of Warding, you will see it used more often.

this is the problem, it should be the most used skill on the bar.

DarkSpirit · Sep 29, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

this is the problem, it should be the most used skill on the bar.

Here is my tip on how to design skill bars for heroes:

Whenever you put fast recharging skills like Xinrae with other fast recharging skills with similar functionality (i.e. to cast on allies who are under attack) in the same skill bar, you should know that they will "compete" with one another for cast time. If you want Xinrae to be used even more often, try disabling "Mend Body and Soul" and Spirit Light. Also replace Weapon of Warding with Weapon of Shadows (longer recharge). Set your healer to avoid combat (so they dont waste time wanding enemies) and with a skill bar like this:

[build=N/Rt][Xinrae's Weapon][Weapon of Shadow][Protective was Kaolai][Foul Feast][Life][Death Pact Signet][/build]

Bring Mhenlo along to cover any necessary healing in HM and go pwn with the awesome power of Xinrae.

-Lotus- · Sep 30, 2008, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSpirit

Here is my tip on how to design skill bars for heroes:

Whenever you put fast recharging skills like Xinrae with other fast recharging skills with similar functionality (i.e. to cast on allies who are under attack) in the same skill bar, you should know that they will "compete" with one another for cast time. If you want Xinrae to be used even more often, try disabling "Mend Body and Soul" and Spirit Light. Also replace Weapon of Warding with Weapon of Shadows (longer recharge). Set your healer to avoid combat (so they dont waste time wanding enemies) and with a skill bar like this:

I would rather leave a good bar on my hero and have Anet update the AI for XW to reflect the skill change.