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The Cutlass · Dec 20, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Hello everyone! Just as a heads up, im a warrior with all skills unlocked. I was wondering what builds everyone else uses(that are discordway) because ive seen many variations on guru and ive heard that the ones on pvxwiki are horrible. not sure what else i can say, other than ill need it for dungeons on NM and HM and some tyria and elona vanquishes. but thanks to all who have helped/will help.

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 20, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

use discord in the place of sabway elites. easy. adjust the attributes so the split into death magic. i'm a warrior also and i use a dragon slash/save yourselves build to maintain (nearly) constant 100 armor shout on my heros.

the savage nornbear · Dec 20, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

I prefer to hex/condition the foes myself. So be prepared to do that. Maybe [[asuran scan] plus a condition from whatever weapon you're using. Also the pvx ones aren't that bad. [[Discord] is the main source of damage, the rest is just cake.

Lord Of Blame · Dec 20, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Basically what Eragon said. Use the Sabway N/Rt & N/Mo bars but give them discord.

N/Rt 12 in restoration, put a death rune on headpiece to get at least a 12 in death, put everthing else in soul reaping

N/Mo 12 in protection, put a death rune on headpiece to get at least a 12 in death, put everthing else in soul reaping

N/ This is your discord MM bomber. You can run a Rt secondary with splinter weapon, or I usually run him with a ranger secondary for frozen soil, very helpful in some HM areas. My MM has two minion skills, death nova, discord, frozen soil or splinter weapon, parasitic bond, enfeeble, signet of lost souls. 16 in death, 8 in channelling or wilderness survival, 3 in curses, rest in soul reaping.

Lots of Warrior primaries run [assassins promise] for the hex. Use regular warrior skills for the condition or some of the norn PVE skills work well too. You can also use asura scan for the hex.

I run an E/N for my build and it works great as long as I can keep the hex and condition on. Which is normally not a problem for me, but as a warrior with little energy you may have a few issues where you will then need to manually have your MM apply the hex and condition. Assassins promise will work well for you as long as you do not get into an area with heavy hex removal, which will make the 45 sec recharge seem like an hour.

Marverick · Dec 20, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Hmmm... I usually run my second necro as curses, with Enfeebling Blood, Weaken Armor, Barbs, etc, and with ~6 points in healing for Dwayna's Sorrow.
Aegis/Prot Spirit go on my MM with 9 in prot

If you're a physical, use Asuran Scan for the hex. No need to use AP.

Super Igor · Dec 20, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

variant on pvx was horrible now its better.

d-way is not sabway you cant use one variation everywhere, one that rocks in one area sucks in other, simple truth. Just switch between more heal or more protect n stuff.

IronSheik · Dec 20, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

I run warriors endurance with [asuran scan]

Let's you spam it, and hex everything easily

syphonus · Dec 21, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Stick with sab imo. Melee primary+ discord= hassle

Daesu · Dec 22, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Keep in mind that sabway and many posted discordway are generic builds and generic builds are good for people who dont like (or lazy) to think up good customized team builds for their characters and the areas they are in.

So if you follow sabway mindlessly, for example, you would be bringing anti-blocking hex even if you bring a full team of casters.

I dont even use sabway or discordway with my dervish. I use an enchantment heavy team with an Ether Renewal Ele because my dervish gets a health and energy boost whenever an enchantment ends. I found THIS to work better for my dervish than a generic sabway or discordway.

daze · Dec 22, 2008, 04:59 AM // 04:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by syphonus

Stick with sab imo. Melee primary+ discord= hassle

Ya this pretty much, the only exception is when you are able to apply a constant pressure of hexes and conditions with no energy troubles.

If you can stack on the hexes and conditions then Discordway will completely blow any "non-generic" build completely out of the water. Especially if you use a 6 hero discordway.

maybe use [assassins promise][you move like a dwarf][asuran scan][for great justice][to the limit][sever artery][gash] (just a suggestion)

-Lotus- · Dec 22, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by syphonus

Stick with sab imo. Melee primary+ discord= hassle

this. to use the discord spike you will have to forget your role as a fronliner to become a caller and totally gimp your build by using something like that build daze posted

Klem Da Aussie · Dec 25, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

td only to use 2 discord necs with the n/rt healer from sabway but with Icy Veins instead of the weapon elite.

As for myself, because im a monk i to be a smiters boon smite healer with ray and finsh him

daze · Dec 25, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Lotus-

this. to use the discord spike you will have to forget your role as a fronliner to become a caller and totally gim your build by using something like that build daze posted

Exactly. No warrior outside of a discord team has any business running the build i just posted. Unless you are doing ascalon quests or something.

But just for fun, it may be fun to call the target and try to run up and hit it with your sword before your heroes kill it.

Super Igor · Dec 25, 2008, 12:25 PM // 12:25

Whats the problem with running a frontliner with d-way?????

I run my sin without that silly caller build and it works wonders, dont even bother to take any additional hexes. Guess you need to theorycraft bit less and play bit more????? :P

-Lotus- · Dec 25, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

not having a caller defeats the point of having a spike. you might as well be running something with more balance and pressure such as sabway.

Super Igor · Dec 25, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Lol, discordway is not a spike.

Daesu · Dec 25, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

I dont create a warrior character just so he can cast spells and wand. If I want to cast spells and wand, I have my necro, mesmer, ele, and rit, so why wouldn't I use them instead? Unless you can prove that a warrior makes a better spell caster than a necro/ele/mesmer so all warriors should switch, which you cant.

And my warrior works just fine with sabway or discordway, but I use my own hero team build for him most of the time. You should fit the hero builds to your character, not the other way round.

Furthermore even if your specific sabway or discordway works well in most areas for lazy people, I am sure there are different hero builds that would work even better by customizing. Tell Sab what character and area, and I am sure she can customize a much better build for that specific instance, than the generic sabway or discordway.

dasmitchies · Dec 25, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Low energy recovery primaries do not work well with the pvx version of discordway. I found the best bet was to have the hero peeps bring weaken armor and aoe hexes to prime discord themselves. That means warriors can focus on casters and paragons can be Imba without worry. They will use discord without prompting and you can call the target to get them to focus if necessary.

-Lotus- · Dec 25, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Igor

Lol, discordway is not a spike.

lolwut?

You must be confusing discordway with something else. in discord way you use [Discord]

Daesu · Dec 25, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

You can still use Asura Scan and a condition build on your warrior and it will work reasonably well with most discordway.

But one of the main strengths of melee characters is the ability to hold aggro, so a nuking hero team build works better with them than with caster characters.