Curse

aliasxneo · Jun 22, 2009, 12:49 AM // 00:49

I'm looking to complete EotN and NF mish's in HM with my sin and I'm looking for good hero builds to compliment my sin and help make the mish's easier. I know there are mission specifics, but I'm looking for a general pve setup for clearing stuff. Any suggestions?

AtomicMew · Jun 22, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Just use sabway

Helix Dreadlock · Jun 22, 2009, 01:45 AM // 01:45

SS helps, maybe some interrupt mesmers.

Also, use pvxwiki.

P.S. dont ask for builds.

ogre_jd · Jun 22, 2009, 01:53 AM // 01:53

My standard setup is Dunkoro (OwAT02nCVSjYjoiY6zBseIgQmAA) for healing and a bit of protection, a Wounding Strikes Melonni (OgGikys8AghuBFx94+7WeFAA) for muscle, and Olias (OAhkUsG4BGmDQrKgHQDjTLhdQAA) for general MMiness and dropping Life whenever he gets a moment. Henches, whenever possible, are the Protection Monk, an Interrupter (Lo Sha in EotN and Odurra in NF), and a pair generic muscles (ie, Devona & Talon in EotN and Devona & Gehraz in NF). Seems to work well enough...

Lord Xivor · Jun 22, 2009, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Discordway. And on your bar, use Assassin's Promise, "You Move Like A Dwarf", Ebon vanguard Assassin Support, and "Finish Him". Make sure to take an energy set (not daggers). You will pew pew HM PvE like a warm knife through butter.

This is exactly what I am doing right now with my fairly new Assassin. I have done NM missions, HM mission, Vanquishes, Dungeons, etc all with heros/henchies with ease.

IronSheik · Jun 22, 2009, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Assassin that uses the Discord crap? Ftl.

Use Scythe or DB Spam.

OwBi0xjMlTqwY8dw0w8Wq/kLCA <-If you have IAS Consumble, if not replace Ward with CA

OwpiMypMdu1cxcRE+Wq/sIKDCA <-Again, Pumpkin pie or something consumble, if not CA

Heroes. I recommend a rit support or RoJ Support with a 10+Smiting Strength of Honor for you

OwYT44nCxxnhXrHBk768AZgGBA
OAOj4ohroOXTmJGzbKNHnzjkLA

An MM, as always

OANDUslfSmRVBoBKg3V1DBEVVA <-Can use Discord or the other bazillion leets

For this last I'd use another Phys buffer, A Paragon or a curse necro with MoP and Barbs

Too many builds for that to post here, but anything like that will do

Henchmen
Proph: Two Monks,1 Warrior, 1 Ele
Factions: Two Heals, 1 Melee, 1 Ele
NF: See Above Herta>WhatsherfaceCynn
EoTn: Two Monks, Zho, Herta

Note: These builds are quick throwups, I don't have my old vanqing builds saved, and I can't use caster crap, especially on a sin, you can use the old promise/Finish him if you want.

AtomicMew · Jun 23, 2009, 12:03 AM // 00:03

EBSoH on melee... fail. 5 attack skills... falling spider, falling lotus... fail. No SY!... fail.

You have no business calling discordway "crap"

Super Igor · Jun 28, 2009, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Go as an AP caller with Discordway you can find on pvxwiki, that setup never failed me.

IronSheik · Jun 28, 2009, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by traversc

EBSoH on melee... fail. 5 attack skills... falling spider, falling lotus... fail. No SY!... fail.

You have no business calling discordway "crap"

That build was taken straight from an Urgoz Speedclear. It's meant for party support and high spike damage...and needing SY alone on a sin, Lol.

Super Igor · Jun 29, 2009, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronSheik

That build was taken straight from an Urgoz Speedclear. It's meant for party support and high spike damage...and needing SY alone on a sin, Lol.

big mistake!

Urgoz =/= general pve.

syphonus · Jun 29, 2009, 01:50 AM // 01:50

SoH +Splinter Wep

Kendel · Jun 29, 2009, 04:02 AM // 04:02

Some sort of Channeling/Smiter support build, i use Xandra because 5 triggers on Splinter and a longer Warmongers Weapon is far better than +4 damage on SoH.

An MM is just... PvE general at its most common. Plus Withering Aura is useful to have.

Either a prot monk (or leave PS on your MM) since its nice to have some control over pre-protting or some sort of shutdown be it interrupts, conditions, hexes, whatever. I've been favouring an E/Me Thunderclap Air Ele recently.

That is if you don't want to be dull and run something with the word '-way' on the end.

Super Igor · Jun 30, 2009, 10:11 AM // 10:11

gogo Discord with AP caller.

Paul Dawg · Jun 30, 2009, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Ummm...what's wrong with EBSoH?

Quote:

Originally Posted by traversc

EBSoH on melee... fail. 5 attack skills... falling spider, falling lotus... fail. No SY!... fail.

AtomicMew · Jun 30, 2009, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

Ummm...what's wrong with EBSoH?

Because at most, you benefit yourself and 1 other party member (assuming you take a melee hench) rather than 7-8 party members like with racway?

Sure there are minions, but they are scattered, blow up too fast and attack way too slow. At any rate, asura scan would still dominate damage wise.

Also, the fact that you're melee means you're moving around a lot more, and the chance that you'll need to step out of the ward is not small at all.

avilia · Jul 01, 2009, 09:20 AM // 09:20

My sin uses the following setup:

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Player A/D, Critical Strikes: 12+1+1, Scythe Mastery: 12
[Wounding Strike][Eremite's Attack][Mystic Sweep][Asuran Scan][Critical Agility][Way of the Master][Critical Eye][Pain Inverter]
Depending on the area, I sometimes use [Aura of Holy Might] instead of PI.

Xandra Rt/any, Channeling Magic: 11+1+2, Spawning Power: 10+1, Death Magic: 10
[Signet of Spirits][Bloodsong][Animate Bone Minions][Death Nova][Splinter Weapon][Essence Strike][Boon of Creation][Explosive Growth]

Master of Whispers N/Rt, Soul Reaping: 12+1+1, Restoration Magic: 12
[Xinrae's Weapon][Weapon of Warding][Spirit Light][Mend Body and Soul][Life][Protective Was Kaolai][Signet of Lost Souls][Flesh of my Flesh]

Livia N/Mo, Soul Reaping: 12+1+1, Protection Prayers: 12, Healing Prayers: 3
[Life Sheath][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Cure Hex][Signet of Lost Souls][Resurrection Chant]

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As you can see, the heroes are very defensively specced. This is because you are the killing machine. If the heroes can keep you alive, you can kill just about anything.

As for henchmen, it really depends on the area, but usually, I take:
Mhenlo, Herta, Odurra and Gehraz in NF
Mhenlo, Herta, Cynn and Lo Sha in EoTN

Super Igor · Jul 01, 2009, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by avilia

My sin uses the following setup:

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Player A/D, Critical Strikes: 12+1+1, Scythe Mastery: 12
[Wounding Strike][Eremite's Attack][Mystic Sweep][Asuran Scan][Critical Agility][Way of the Master][Critical Eye][Pain Inverter]
Depending on the area, I sometimes use [Aura of Holy Might] instead of PI.

Xandra Rt/any, Channeling Magic: 11+1+2, Spawning Power: 10+1, Death Magic: 10
[Signet of Spirits][Bloodsong][Animate Bone Minions][Death Nova][Splinter Weapon][Essence Strike][Boon of Creation][Explosive Growth]

Master of Whispers N/Rt, Soul Reaping: 12+1+1, Restoration Magic: 12
[Xinrae's Weapon][Weapon of Warding][Spirit Light][Mend Body and Soul][Life][Protective Was Kaolai][Signet of Lost Souls][Flesh of my Flesh]

Livia N/Mo, Soul Reaping: 12+1+1, Protection Prayers: 12, Healing Prayers: 3
[Life Sheath][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Cure Hex][Signet of Lost Souls][Resurrection Chant]

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As you can see, the heroes are very defensively specced. This is because you are the killing machine. If the heroes can keep you alive, you can kill just about anything.

As for henchmen, it really depends on the area, but usually, I take:
Mhenlo, Herta, Odurra and Gehraz in NF
Mhenlo, Herta, Cynn and Lo Sha in EoTN

Thats why I like Discway, you can have uber defense and still deal awesome ammounts of dommage! :P

Painbringer · Jul 01, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19

I run a Necro / rit with Splinter
a monk with ROJ and Strength of Honor(have it disabled and force cast it on you)
Depends sometimes a Necro curses / Minons
or another ROJ monk / prot

With Critical Agility and Critical Defenses and if you have the prot with you protective spirit you are a ginzu knife

Happy slashing

Paul Dawg · Jul 01, 2009, 05:25 PM // 17:25

I don't often use EBSoH (I sound like that guy in the Dos Equis commercials), but when I do, I don't see these problems with it. Minions are usually right where I am, wailing away at the same target. This is PvE; you don't have to move around so much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by traversc

Because at most, you benefit yourself and 1 other party member (assuming you take a melee hench) rather than 7-8 party members like with racway?

Sure there are minions, but they are scattered, blow up too fast and attack way too slow. At any rate, asura scan would still dominate damage wise.

Also, the fact that you're melee means you're moving around a lot more, and the chance that you'll need to step out of the ward is not small at all.

AtomicMew · Jul 01, 2009, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

I don't often use EBSoH (I sound like that guy in the Dos Equis commercials), but when I do, I don't see these problems with it. Minions are usually right where I am, wailing away at the same target. This is PvE; you don't have to move around so much.

I could post a million screenshots of foes not clumped up in ward range. The fact that you say you "usually dont use it" means you pretty much agree with me. i.e., there are better options