Curse

Dark Paladin X · Jun 06, 2009, 07:32 PM // 19:32

I was doing the z-bounty that involves me going into the Ooze Pits and come into the conclusion that it is impossible in HM. I was trying to do this without using any consumables whatsoever and was using Discordway, which is supposed to be a universal build to use in HM (and my henchies were Talon Silverwnig, Eve, Mhenlo, and Lina). The problem being is that I keep getting wiped so many times, mostly because of Volatile Oozes popping out of nowhere. Pulling is nearly impossible in HM and the enemy AI is always smarter than the h/h AI in HM. Therefore this dungeon is impossible in HM with using h/h.

EDIT: I was using a ranger using [broad head arrow] and [pain inverter]. The purpose of that is to keep the Earthbind Oozes dazed and have the boss kill itself with it's AoE damage.

Burst Cancel · Jun 06, 2009, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Therefore this dungeon is impossible in HM with using h/h.

Hey, nice troll. Let's see if anyone falls for it.

Oh wait.

Dark Paladin X · Jun 06, 2009, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Look, my point being is that this dungeon can't be done in HM with h/h. If I can't do it with Discordway, then nothing can.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 06, 2009, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Discordway is a good build, it is not the omnipowerful build. I guarantee you it is 100% possible, no I will not go do it to prove it to you.

Helix Dreadlock · Jun 06, 2009, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Every part of this game except for PvP and the gates in Prof can be completed.

poppu16 · Jun 06, 2009, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

If I can't do it with Discordway, then nothing can.

That's why you seem to fail, discordway isn't necessarly good for cleaning all areas of the game.
But sure it can be done withh/h in HM, i did all my HM dungeons like this.

You need to pull mobs in the right way, and not rushing in the center of the room. And be PATIENT for this boss :P

Joseph Spiritmaster · Jun 06, 2009, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Lol you really think that Discord is really the BEST way to complete things?

No your wrong.

This actually can be done HM H/H. you were right to use BHA and PI, good job, but Discord might not have been best. Try Modding Sab way, and a Tease Healer. (cause Daze + tease healer = pwnt)

(Lol... you really thought that if Discord cant do it nothing can xD thats funny, i laughed a little)

Dark Paladin X · Jun 06, 2009, 07:57 PM // 19:57

ok, i wasn't doing anything wrong when I was using Discordway. I followed what the exact build (minus the setup of the player character) in PvXwiki. Yet I got wiped when I reached 60 dp and forced to return to outpost. Yes, I do know there is no corpse exploitation in Ooze Pits, but who needs minions when u have Discord.

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Originally Posted by poppu16

That's why you seem to fail, discordway isn't necessarly good for cleaning all areas of the game.
But sure it can be done withh/h in HM, i did all my HM dungeons like this.

You need to pull mobs in the right way, and not rushing in the center of the room. And be PATIENT for this boss :P

Well I was trying to pull with a longbow, but often times ALL the nearby mobs come into me.

And I didn't have a chance to reach to the boss. I got wiped in the area with two rolling rocks and a room that shoots of poison darts.

Joseph Spiritmaster · Jun 06, 2009, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

ok, i wasn't doing anything wrong when I was using Discordway. I followed what the exact build (minus the setup of the player character) in PvXwiki. Yet I got wiped when I reached 60 dp and forced to return to outpost. Yes, I do know there is no corpse exploitation in Ooze Pits, but who needs minions when u have Discord.

Well I was trying to pull with a longbow, but often times ALL the nearby mobs come into me.

And I didn't have a chance to reach to the boss. I got wiped in the area with two rolling rocks and a room that shoots of poison darts.

i bolded your problems... try out the section under this sub forum on discord to get better variants... Dont say something impossible.... nothing is impossible (im serious) just extremely hard to an extreme degree...

so stop da' trollin and try again!

eldrethv · Jun 06, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

I've done it H/H

It's possible.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 06, 2009, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

ok, i wasn't doing anything wrong when I was using Discordway. I followed what the exact build (minus the setup of the player character) in PvXwiki. Yet I got wiped when I reached 60 dp and forced to return to outpost. Yes, I do know there is no corpse exploitation in Ooze Pits, but who needs minions when u have Discord.

Well I was trying to pull with a longbow, but often times ALL the nearby mobs come into me.

And I didn't have a chance to reach to the boss. I got wiped in the area with two rolling rocks and a room that shoots of poison darts.

1. Setup had minions, like you said no corpse exploitation, wasted skill slots
2. Are you actually hexing and conditioning the enemies effectively with your bar, and calling correctly?
3. Mobs are VERY sticky in HM. Pulling can be very difficult, and are you sure that they are not one big mob, sometimes mobs will take and area and go around it pointlessly and crowd up every minute or so, watch the mobs for a while to see if it is 1 or more.

Dark Paladin X · Jun 06, 2009, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

2. Are you actually hexing and conditioning the enemies effectively with your bar, and calling correctly?

Well yes, I was calling on targets. I even mashed ctril+spacebar on the target multiple times in rapid succession when I got killed during battle, but the h/h are just too stupid.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 06, 2009, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Well yes, I was calling on targets. I even mashed ctril+spacebar on the target multiple times in rapid succession when I got killed during battle, but the h/h are just too stupid.

No, the problem is if you read discord realllllly carefully you will see that it needs a condition and a hex to work correctly, henchys will not apply this in an effective manner, YOU have to be able to apply both in rapid succession and be able to do it often for the build to work.

Oh also, are all you heros on guard? Some people have that problem.

Gift3d · Jun 06, 2009, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Look, my point being is that this dungeon can't be done in HM with h/h. If I can't do it with Discordway, then nothing can.

such an arrogant moronic attitude won't get you anywhere, i did it with h/h and a golem summoning stone in hm, you're either really bad at trolling or really bad at guild wars, either way you fail.

Omgopolis · Jun 06, 2009, 08:30 PM // 20:30

If you want a fairly brainless way to H/H it take RoJ heroes with some small prots and Spirit Bond and Protective Spirit. Manually prot yourself up, flag allies back, and take all of the aggro. Then RoJ everything to death.

Not too exciting or interesting, but it works.

I didn't even try to do discords because I usually spread bleeding around for my condition, and I don't think oozes can bleed. Plus no corpses, so having 3 necroes isn't great.

Dark Paladin X · Jun 06, 2009, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Ok, here's what my ranger was using when I was doing this:

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The big problem is that most of the condition-inflicting skills rangers have requires someone to be fleshy.

Braxton619 · Jun 06, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

I don't like Discord and I prefer Sabway.

I did this dungeon easily in HM with H/H. Stop the trolling.

Icy The Mage · Jun 06, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Ok, here's what my ranger was using when I was doing this:

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The big problem is that most of the condition-inflicting skills rangers have requires someone to be fleshy.

So change to inflict conditions that don't require your targets to be fleshy.

Squishy ftw · Jun 06, 2009, 08:55 PM // 20:55

No, it's not impossible.

Stop being bad, that might help.

Grim Aragorn · Jun 06, 2009, 09:26 PM // 21:26

just did this on my para in 20mins with no cons, no sabway, no discordway just a balanced H/H setup not that hard bro