Curse

ruemere · Dec 27, 2009, 02:53 AM // 02:53

I stand corrected. Actually, I have moved away from FD build towards ER some time ago (FD build was too slow to effectively manage HM elementalists, unfortunately).

My current setup for Duncan is below. The human players are pretty standard (me - the caller, him - another caller, remaining heroes - Disco MM healers and Mesmer with Power Block), Signet of Creation is there to alleviate somewhat aftercast delays (i.e. casting times and aftercasts keep piling up, so with Signet of Creation, especially during extended battles, spirits are deployed or redeployed with minimum delay):

Ritualist, offensive primary (Minor Channeling @ head, Major Restoration): OAKjgNhsITXTlTbiMTSTTODTXHA

Ritualist, offensive secondary (Superior Spawning, Minor Communing @ head): OACjAyhIpSOTBTWTbinNRbfTbOA

Elementalist Mo, protector: OgNDwZr/S1C0CBEaR1D3EeENgA

And my colleague is bringing defensive Ritualist (and some additional midliners - replace Pain with another 5e spirits or another support spell):
OACiAyk84MDmWzwp17xBN/mA.

The setup is not perfect, however we have been able to finish other Duncan quests with little problem (a few wipes happened mostly due to our carelessness).

Regards,
Ruemere

Sethellington · Dec 27, 2009, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Well this is all good and well when using a Sin primary, and spamming SY! What would you suggest for caster primaries? Namely a nec. I've seen this page on PvX by the way, and in all honesty I wasn't hugely impressed by the build with the Para, I tried it out.

athariel · Dec 27, 2009, 02:02 PM // 14:02

I finished Vloxen HM with my friend with barely any deaths and without any consumables. What we used was:

me: E/Me with meteor shower, teinai heat, searing heat and Ursan Blessing (o_O)
+ 3 discord heroes from PvX
my friend: A/W I think, he had death blossom and Ursan Blessing as well
+ Herta
+ Mhenlo
+ Lina i think

strategy is simple: both players go into ursan and charge into Stone Summit Healer/Defender, doing extreme KD and AoE weakness. Once healers die, focus gnashers. When UB isn't ready, use meteor shower to kd and other aoe damage to mess with healers AI =)

the only time I remember we died with this setup were oozes o_O because they spawned right on top of us and spiked us with shockwaves :P

ruemere · Dec 27, 2009, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethellington

Well this is all good and well when using a Sin primary, and spamming SY! What would you suggest for caster primaries? Namely a nec. I've seen this page on PvX by the way, and in all honesty I wasn't hugely impressed by the build with the Para, I tried it out.

My Necro caller (Curses +1+1, Soul Reaping +1, Spear with Shelter, Focus of Fortitude or Shield with inscription vs Fire, 620 hp total, 47 or 35 e):
OAdTY0z6VSoxmcBaXMmMRwSoqCA

<pvxbig>
[build prof=N/A sou=10 cur=11 dead=10][Reckless Haste]["You Move Like a Dwarf!"][Assassin's Promise][Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support]["Finish Him!"][Rigor Mortis][Mark of Pain][Signet of Lost Souls][/build]
</pvxbig>

Replace Rigor Mortis with Barbs when running minions against opponents sans blocking skills. Consider using Echo instead of AP (less spamming, better battlefield control). Consider using Enfeeble or Enfeebling Blood if supporting Discord team.

Regards,
Ruemere

MercenaryKnight · Dec 27, 2009, 08:01 PM // 20:01

If you can run with a physical the n/a ap mop nuker is pretty much the build to use. Especially against enemies who will ball up. If you don't have a physical dishing out good damage you could still bring it but it'd rely on your sin for the burst of aoe damage. If you don't like it you could always run an ss build to spam on the healer/ casters.

AtomicMew · Dec 28, 2009, 08:13 AM // 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethellington

Well this is all good and well when using a Sin primary, and spamming SY! What would you suggest for caster primaries? Namely a nec. I've seen this page on PvX by the way, and in all honesty I wasn't hugely impressed by the build with the Para, I tried it out.

Yeah, I made that page.

The build works much better with a physical spamming SY! Sin works the best IMO because of the ability to just pump out stupid-huge damages, be unblockable and remove enchantments thanks to shattering assault, and also be completely immune to conditions and knockdowns if need be.

After some consideration, I simply wouldn't use a spellcaster. Instead, I took my necro into melee, and that's the best success I've had with him. It's still nowhere near as strong as my assassin's setup, but it's definitely better than "normal" builds like SS, AP, FD etc. Unfortunately, I won't update the pvx page to reflect this, because people there would then have a poop throwing party.