Curse

Daesu · Apr 02, 2010, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Can someone confirm if the non-human heroes like Zhed, Vekk, Ogden, Jora, MOX, Pyre, and maybe Razah really behave like non-humans when it comes to disease or EoE?

If they can't spread disease back to the player then that is an added advantage for bringing them instead of a human equivalent of the same class, provided that you are not fighting their class of foes, of course.

Archress Shayleigh · Apr 02, 2010, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by Daesu

provided that you are not fighting their class of foes, of course.

Think about it. It's better if you're say, with Jora, while fighting a group of norns. That way if they disease her, she'll spread it back to them.

Olle · Apr 02, 2010, 08:26 AM // 08:26

"Unlike other Golems, M.O.X. is fleshy and susceptible to all conditions and environmental effects that affect humans, but does not spread disease to human characters. "

"Since he is not a human, Zhed cannot transfer disease to or from other party members but can take diseases from other centaur kind. "

"Razah does not transfer disease to party members. "
wiki.

Daesu · Apr 02, 2010, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Archress Shayleigh

Think about it. It's better if you're say, with Jora, while fighting a group of norns. That way if they disease her, she'll spread it back to them.

I am saying disease them and they wont spread it back to her.

@kajusbonus: Yes I have read the wiki before posting this. I am looking for confirmation and the wiki didn't mention about the other non-human heroes.

Xenomortis · Apr 02, 2010, 03:15 PM // 15:15

I would say this is a simple test, but the disease inflicted by the Student of Disease doesn't appear to spread at all.
No matter though, it's still easily testable.

Test: Use Rotting Flesh on the Master of Damage (human) to inflict disease. Stand next to him to receive disease and see if it spreads to non-human heroes (or flag heroes next to him).

Hero group 1:
Jora, Koss, Master of Whispers. (Koss and Master are used to confirm that disease spreads between humans properly in the area and nothing unexpected is going on)
Jora does not receive Disease from the MoD or player. The other two heroes become diseased and spread it between the player and themselves, but not ever to Jora.

Hero group 2:
Ogden, Vekk, Pyre
None of the heroes receive Disease. Player character slowly dies.

Hero group 3:
MOX, Zhed, Razah
MOX and Zhed never receive Disease.
Razah does receive and spreads Disease from and to the Master of Damage and Player character.

Test was performed in the PvE version of Isle of the Nameless using a PvP character.
Further tests would be using Edge of Extinction, testing to see if Ogden spreads Disease to Stone Summit or other Dwarfs, if Zhed spreads to other Centaurs, Pyre to Charr, Jora to Norn and Vekk to Asura. The latter two simply are never important though.
Since it appears Razah counts as a human, I doubt he'll spread to anything else, but you might want to check other Torment creatures.
MOX is unique in that he's a Golem that can be diseased. He will therefore never spread to other Golems and probably not to anything else either.

Daesu · Apr 02, 2010, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Since it appears Razah counts as a human, I doubt he'll spread to anything else, but you might want to check other Torment creatures.
MOX is unique in that he's a Golem that can be diseased. He will therefore never spread to other Golems and probably not to anything else either.

So it appears the wiki is wrong about Razah. I tried the Student of Disease too but it didn't seem to spread. I didn't think of using Master of Damage to spread the disease back.

Thanks Xeno!

Xenomortis · Apr 02, 2010, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Test was performed in the PvE version of Isle of the Nameless using a PvP character.

Same result for a PvE character.