Curse

Dark-NighT · Oct 20, 2010, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by Daesu

We are not getting 4 more monk or ele heroes are we?

Nope! But if you want to help ele's with sf i suggest you take a paragon with loads of burning skills with you.

As for a smiteball, i think you could do necro/monk heroes for that, their soul reaping will make it easy to keep using the more expensive smite skills.

EinherjarMx · Oct 20, 2010, 03:36 PM // 15:36

If playing with my para, something along the lines of racthoh's build + sabway or rits + a smiter or something

If playing with my ele, discord way + rits + mesmer

Daesu · Oct 20, 2010, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Miss Presler

Nope! But if you want to help ele's with sf i suggest you take a paragon with loads of burning skills with you.

As for a smiteball, i think you could do necro/monk heroes for that, their soul reaping will make it easy to keep using the more expensive smite skills.

That's what I figure.

I would probably do for my ele:

SoS Rit
Offensive Communing (SoGM or ST) Rit
N/Mo MM with Prot
Me/Rt with Panic or Shared Burden
N/Mo with RoJ, smite, and curse
Mo/Me with UA, smite and Power Drain for energy
N/Rt restoration healer

Daris · Oct 20, 2010, 03:46 PM // 15:46

3 elementalists ( ooze build )
2 paragons (one tactics-leadership. one command )
2 rangers (poison tip, burning arrow splinter weapon )

um.. me healing?
cuz... that team is gonna need ALOT of healing

Life Bringing · Oct 20, 2010, 03:49 PM // 15:49

I would rather have a third rit than fourth necro tbh

Lanier · Oct 20, 2010, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Something along the lines of:

1 healer (ill probably set up a rit and a monk with healing builds and alternate them)
1 Protter (likewise, ill set up an ER and a prot monk and alternate them)
1 MM (the same one I use currently - just a general AoTL MM)
1 Minion/curses support Necro

Then myself and 3 other heroes with builds of my choice. What I'll probably end up doing is bringing several heroes of one profession at a time (ex: bring all my warriors at a time, bring all my rangers at a time, bring all my eles at a time) and then set up support skills on my second necro that synergize well. Whenever i bring professions like assassins or paragons that only have two heroes apiece, ill probably slot another support hero in the final slot.

Painbringer · Oct 20, 2010, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by Daesu

We are not getting 4 more monk or ele heroes are we?

No we are not but

Smite Monks- With double damage on holy against dead any class will do necro for e-management or elementalist would work fine

Searing - Necros or maybe a Mesmer with some heavy insperation for energy gain and disruption

vamp08 · Oct 20, 2010, 04:45 PM // 16:45

I plan to run a boring old Discord team with 3 SF Ele nukers and a "ToF!" Paragon.

Or Switch up the last heros with RoJway.

Big_Iron · Oct 20, 2010, 05:02 PM // 17:02

I guess it really will depend on the environment.

I'd love to take a bunch of interrupt rangers and mesmers out once just to watch them blow up the enemy AI. I guess cookie cutter will be 3 Necros with damage dealers like Eles.

Sytherek · Oct 20, 2010, 05:41 PM // 17:41

With my ranger... none of these are PvX builds, BTW... I'm just listing general builds and elites.

Jora (Dragon Slash sword)
Hayda (decondition/dehex/group buffs)
Livia (AotL MM)
Gwen (Panic Dom)
Tahlkora (Smiter)
Vekk (Sandstorm/Churning/Wards)
Ogden (ZB Prot)

For my ritualist:

Xandra (healing/prot spirits)
Hayda (decond/dehex/group buffs)
Margrid (Poison Volley/Enrage Lunge pet)
Gwen (Panic/Unstable Dom, maybe Teaser)
Melonni (Reaper's Sweep)
Dunkoro (Divine Healer)
Jora (Hundred Blades sword)

As for my Necro... not sure yet. Probably a strong physical team.

Not that I won't be swapping around; my ranger has 11 fully-equipped heroes, and my rit has 14.

Xenomortis · Oct 20, 2010, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by Chthon

I'll think about it more when it happens. For now my first thought is: I want a fourth necromancer hero. (And none of them would be running discord...)

Why? Unless you want to run two MMs, there isn't enough in any of the Nec lines to merit two Necs specced into the same line.
I suppose you could use it for a secondary, but I think there are better ways to get the same result.

As for a third Rit over a fourth Nec - I largely agree, but only because of the potential for Soul Twisting.

Necromas · Oct 20, 2010, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Why? Unless you want to run two MMs, there isn't enough in any of the Nec lines to merit two Necs specced into the same line.
I suppose you could use it for a secondary, but I think there are better ways to get the same result.

As for a third Rit over a fourth Nec - I largely agree, but only because of the potential for Soul Twisting.

4th nec wouldn't have to use a necro line, they can use soul reaping to fuel infinite energy for their secondary profession skills.

Dark-NighT · Oct 20, 2010, 06:10 PM // 18:10

I think ive come up with a combo for my necro.

Since ive been using Tahlk, livia, vekk and gwen as my main 4 heroes i want to expand on that.

So im still doing SS, the team would be like this

Tahlk HB healer + interrupts
Livia Jagged MM + blood ritual
Vekk Unsteady ground + wards
Gwen Panic + bunch more interrupts
Dunkoro Prot + hex con remover
Xandra Sos + defensive spirits
Olias Life transfer + more vamp skills
Optional is Zenmai with spear + Dark Apostasy for loads of disenchantment where needed.

KingCrab · Oct 20, 2010, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Gee a lot of Panic mesmer heroes going on in this thread. That's something I've never tried, guess I should give it a shot.

KingCrab · Oct 20, 2010, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Sharkinu

3 MM necros, 2 spirit rits, 2 monks.
all with pets

ZERG RUSH!!!

Does pain inverter trigger on pets? If so (even without minions) that could mean 80*16 = 1280 damage to any eles that decide to nuke the party. I like this idea!

Angel Killuminati · Oct 20, 2010, 06:30 PM // 18:30

It'd be great to just play areas which don't have much activity anymore, elite areas - because heroes are usually welcome there, unless they still restrict the amount of heroes to be taken. It would bring back so much more life to the game again for me.

KingCrab · Oct 20, 2010, 06:55 PM // 18:55

I've always wanted to two Nec and two Rit heroes each devoted fully to one area

Curses Necromancer
Death Magic Necromancer
Channeling Ritualist
Communing Ritualist

then I'd take along a RoJ Healer and I really have no idea what to do for my next two heroes. Maybe a full Resto Rit if they give us another Rit hero soon, and an Elementalist for some AoE.

syphonus · Oct 20, 2010, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Why? Unless you want to run two MMs, there isn't enough in any of the Nec lines to merit two Necs specced into the same line.
I suppose you could use it for a secondary, but I think there are better ways to get the same result.

Pain of Disenchantment? Maybe 2 copies of MoP makes it more likely to hit one, making it worth bringing? I dunno..

Xenomortis · Oct 20, 2010, 11:56 PM // 23:56

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Originally Posted by Necromas

4th nec wouldn't have to use a necro line, they can use soul reaping to fuel infinite energy for their secondary profession skills.

Your options are limited. Soul Reaping isn't infinite energy. Whilst you get very good returns over an extended period of time, you cannot fronload spells as well as an Elementalist.
The common build that exploits SR for a hero is the N/Rt healer (and N/Mo to an extent), but these builds are very limited and are not options I would really be tempted to go with, even with 4 Necro heroes.

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Originally Posted by syphonus

Pain of Disenchantment? Maybe 2 copies of MoP makes it more likely to hit one, making it worth bringing? I dunno..

A small amount of micro removes the point of "making it more likely to hit".

Horace Slughorn · Oct 21, 2010, 12:16 AM // 00:16

7 frenzy wars and I'll play monk