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Old Mar 31, 2011, 04:26 AM // 04:26   #21
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He said Leech Signet was fine and PI was not. Discussing swapping Leech Signet is therefore meaningless.
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Old Mar 31, 2011, 08:22 AM // 08:22   #22
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are you talking to me? because i did read your post... did you read mine?

if you don't like that idea, drop leach signet and have PI as your only interrupt. i'm literally not sure what you didn't understand about my post.
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Old Mar 31, 2011, 03:02 PM // 15:02   #23
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He said Leech Signet was fine and PI was not. Discussing swapping Leech Signet is therefore meaningless.
the point i was trying to make was to test the build with a different interrupt to see what happens. i read that his mesmer hero was using Leech Signet, which is why i made the suggestion that i did.

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hey bro, i'm sorry i tried to offer advice when you were clearly just here to complain. good luck.
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Old Mar 31, 2011, 03:12 PM // 15:12   #24
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I often use multiple interrupts, like leech signet + power drain, somehow they work fine together. PI does not. I thought maybe someone knows why. I guess my heroes are different...
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Old Mar 31, 2011, 04:07 PM // 16:07   #25
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well, was he constantly using other skills? were all his interrupts on CD constantly? what did the bar look like? was he always low on energy?

my only guess is that he was prioritizing other skills over PI for some reason. that is what i was trying to say earlier, i should have just stated it like that.

what i've been told, and experienced myself, is that if you want heroes to use a skill that has a particular effect, don't give them (many) other skills that also have that effect. if you only have 2 interrupts on the bar, and 1 is on CD, he'll have to use the other, this way you can try and control what skill they are using. when I tried PI i had a base of PI, power drain, WNWN, and that was it for interrupts. i didn't see a ton of knockdowns, but i wasn't in a difficult area either, things were dying fast, it could have been a targeting thing, or mayby my 3 other heroes with interrupts were beating him to the punch. once things get going, i'm not sure how heroes decide who they'll attack/interrupt.

the next time i'm running it, i'll try and lock him on priority targets and see if that helps. like i say, i'm not expert at it, i'm just drawing conclusions from what i've seen with the potato AI that heroes have.
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Old Apr 01, 2011, 05:53 AM // 05:53   #26
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what did PI do before the mesmer buff? heros will still use skills as they where back in the day...

Problem i have with hammer is it takes so long to build adrenaline compaired to kill time that im not getting many knockdowns, and thats with fgj, flail and crude swing.

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http://www.guildwiki.org/Trampling_Ox

tried this on anton with the test dummies
palm strike >trampling ox > impale works ok on the dummies

mine has a pet, so has scavenger strike and comfort animal, shroud of distress, deaths charge and deaths retreat

bestial pounce could be chucked in aswell (knockdown of target is casting a spell)
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Old Apr 01, 2011, 04:49 PM // 16:49   #27
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i'm not sure what PI did pre buff, but i ran Vizunah Square last night with a PI/resto mesmer and only saw PI on CD a few times. it might be that she was busy casting heals or just didn't have the right mobs targeted. on the other hand, everything melted anyways while i was /dancing.

as i say, when i want to use it in more difficult content, i'll lock her target on a caster i want locked down and see if that helps

@pingu try Dark Fury. I found i was getting ES up after 2 or 3 swings depending on how many i hit with crude swing.
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Old Apr 01, 2011, 09:49 PM // 21:49   #28
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thats ok with hero's, but in a pug i cant really bring along a orders bot , ive played about with a physway setup with oop, dark fury, mark of fury and fgj, which is pretty good fun
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