Curse

Navis · Apr 06, 2011, 01:04 PM // 13:04

It is possible, without conset (you'll have to trust me on this one).
I did it in 1h19.
It's long but if you love this area like I do you won't mind spending that much time there.
And no conset means it's accessible to poor or stingy players

I did use a few clovers to remove DP. I don't think it was critical to do it at any point though, you can work up DP pretty fast in HM. But it definitely made my life easier and probably saved some time compared to if I hadn't done it.

No other consumables of any kind where used. I always have scrolls with me in case they're needed, but I didn't have to use them this time.

Andemius · Apr 06, 2011, 01:50 PM // 13:50

hey, this looks good, fancy sharing build and tactics? never done deep before, somewhat neglected it

Reformed · Apr 06, 2011, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Run fallbacks and low-mid 40s is possible with no cons whatsoever. Anything under that would be really pushing it considering you do have to actually kill things to pull this off.

scratchdude · Apr 06, 2011, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Gratz, pretty impressive! Mind sharing the builds? Can't wait to try this out!

Zen1331 · Apr 06, 2011, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by Reformed

Run fallbacks and low-mid 40s is possible with no cons whatsoever. Anything under that would be really pushing it considering you do have to actually kill things to pull this off.

How did you pop the switches w/o recall?

Reformed · Apr 06, 2011, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Zen1331

How did you pop the switches w/o recall?

Take a close look at my build.

powerslave · Apr 06, 2011, 04:47 PM // 16:47

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Originally Posted by Zen1331

How did you pop the switches w/o recall?

The UA monk has Consume Corpse to get to the other side. The player then sacrifices themselves and get transported to the other side. Aggro the Aspect, move away from the door while the rest of the team dies. Res them with UA or res scroll.

Xenomortis · Apr 06, 2011, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by powerslave

The UA monk has Consume Corpse to get to the other side. The player then sacrifices themselves and get transported to the other side. Aggro the Aspect, move away from the door while the rest of the team dies. Res them with UA or res scroll.

Reformed has Necrotic Traversal and Rebirth.
Guess again.

powerslave · Apr 06, 2011, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Reformed has Necrotic Traversal and Rebirth.
Guess again.

I was looking at the original picture, assumed that was what was being talked about. I did see CC so that's what I assumed. What I described was what I used the other day when I did The Deep.

If Reformed carries NT and Rebirth on themselves then it's even easier than the method I described.

Navis · Apr 06, 2011, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Reformed is faster than me, you should ask him his build

Anyway this is what I use (I put the runes indicated but no insignias yet on my heroes' armor)

I'm not claiming this is the best build out there.
Looking at Reformed team, I'm thinking an Ineptitude mesmer would work well there and could replace a RoJ or two.
Comments and suggestions to improve my build or entirely new builds are welcome

I can be faster for sure with mine, the screenshot above was actually my first attempt in HM.

To go through the door I kill the first Outcast group and the necros use their bodies to CC through.
Then I recall to one necro, Monks and Rit Recall to me.
I position each flag on a pad, I take center one.
As soon as the door opens I cancel my Recall then cancel all flags, then cancel the heroes Recalls.
If you're fast everyone gets through without the need for dying.

Zen1331 · Apr 06, 2011, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Thanks. I'm going to give that a try since my main is a necro ^^

HigherMinion · Apr 06, 2011, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Originally Posted by Reformed

Run fallbacks and low-mid 40s is possible with no cons whatsoever. Anything under that would be really pushing it considering you do have to actually kill things to pull this off.

Res scrolls count as cons?

Reformed · Apr 06, 2011, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by HigherMinion

Res scrolls count as cons?

No cons at all not even scrolls. Though, it probably wouldn't shave off much time at all to use one since the process is fairly quick already to res through the gate.

FoxBat · Apr 06, 2011, 07:23 PM // 19:23

If you really want to be dumb with the speedclearing, can't you just SF run past much of the content, and warp your heroes with flagging where they are needed?

Olle · Apr 06, 2011, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

If you really want to be dumb with the speedclearing, can't you just SF run past much of the content, and warp your heroes with flagging where they are needed?

you need to kill Kanaxai's in order to move along
you need to kill something with ranged damage(alone) and then consume to them
you need to get past an nonspellcasting room
and much more.
so no, it cannot be SF run past'd