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Jeydra · Mar 26, 2011, 11:13 AM // 11:13

On the other hand, the SoGM Rit does about twice the DPS of every other template other than the SoS and possibly the MM, so if you're going to give it up you'd better have a pretty damn good reason indeed. Aside from some mobs which you can't prot against (Rage Titans, Molotov Rocktail) I don't see why using ST instead of SoGM is a good idea.

I think three copies of Death Pact Signet might be too much; one of some other kind of res might be preferable. Problem with 3x Death Pact is that if you almost wipe but recover, it's possible you're tempted to push on and really wipe next time, because one death kills all your Death Pact users at the same time. Still, it's possible to argue that if you do suffer so many deaths it's your fault as a player.

SmokingHotImolation · Mar 26, 2011, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Jeydra

On the other hand, the SoGM Rit does about twice the DPS of every other template other than the SoS and possibly the MM, so if you're going to give it up you'd better have a pretty damn good reason indeed. Aside from some mobs which you can't prot against (Rage Titans, Molotov Rocktail) I don't see why using ST instead of SoGM is a good idea.

I was talking about ST paired with offensive communing spirits, not sure why you're arguing prots.

The DPS of a sogm rit with all spirits up is undoubtedly godly, but the thing is that without ST recharges will do that only half or less of the spirits are up at most groups.

Even if the dps of, say, 3 spirits under sogm are still better than the dps of 5 spirits without sogm, i would still prefer the 5 spirits for the utility it offers.

beagle warrior · Mar 27, 2011, 03:13 PM // 15:13

im loving this build right now

distilledwill · Mar 28, 2011, 08:30 AM // 08:30

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Originally Posted by beagle warrior

im loving this build right now

Fairly standard, I can see it working ok. Although heroes really don't know how to use Arcane Echo - I'd remove it.

Kudos on going with something a little different with the PI healers. Plus you've got enough defense to be getting on with. Nice one.

beagle warrior · Mar 28, 2011, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

Fairly standard, I can see it working ok. Although heroes really don't know how to use Arcane Echo - I'd remove it.

Theyre actually alot better with arcane echo than i was expecting. they used it to copy roj almost every time.

chip99 · Apr 01, 2011, 12:05 PM // 12:05

my current build, faster than anything I've ever seen

aspi · Apr 01, 2011, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Thats not a lot of healing chip, what kind of areas did you try with this?

AndrewSX · Apr 01, 2011, 03:00 PM // 15:00

^ What i was thinking too. You have....2 heals(3 including PwK) and 1 prot (spirit bond).

If it isn't a troll(jk, april fool :P), i'd surely get rid of 2-3 mez, or 1 mez +the discorders, to add support/heal/prots(you know, stuff lke MM and monk).

FoxBat · Apr 01, 2011, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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If it isn't a troll(jk, april fool :P), i'd surely get rid of 2-3 mez

Those of you yet to pony up $$$ to Anet... you just don't know what you are missing.

mortenya · Apr 01, 2011, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by beagle warrior

im loving this build right now

have you ever watched the Me/Rt heroes to see how often they use PI? I'm noticing thus far that they like to cast every skill but PI. others have noticed this as well.

Squishy ftw · Apr 01, 2011, 08:16 PM // 20:16

That's what I'm currently running with my rit.

Any tips/comments are appreciated.

Outerworld · Apr 01, 2011, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Quick thing about the player bar; Spirit Siphon >Sig of creation.

AndrewSX · Apr 01, 2011, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by mortenya

have you ever watched the Me/Rt heroes to see how often they use PI? I'm noticing thus far that they like to cast every skill but PI. others have noticed this as well.

I'm using PI mes for quite long, and as far as i've seen they'll use it:
1-if a mob is casting(lol really?) and there aren't other rupts aivable;
2-if they're not busy to do something else(maybe keep alive your team when they are /Rt resto);
3-must be set at least to defence, not avoid(another quite obvious thing, lol).

In other words, w/o micro PI is usually last rupt choice/skill resource, but the solution is just call the target(or lock manually your heroes on him): generally calling will magically ring PI on top of the rupt list...enjoy 4 sec AoE KD.

@ Squishy ftw:
the only things i could point is using Shelther+bone minions and fragility on the mez. The rest seems working fine, just test it.

mortenya · Apr 01, 2011, 09:43 PM // 21:43

yea, i was playing this after noon and it seemed like gwen was constantly dropping heals and didn't have time for PI, so i think i'll move her away from healing to something else.

hrusha · Apr 01, 2011, 11:44 PM // 23:44

I wonder if anyone's considering doing something like a raffle or a small giveaway in order to collect data on 7 hero builds for casual players. Something like: Do one of a few options (say a couple of the harder missions, vanquishes, and dungeons), and either get a small reward (something a bit better than your normal Zaishen reward) or get entered into a raffle (provide screenshots of your time, say if you used cons and how much micro you did). The rewards wouldn't depend on your time, so that casual or newer players aren't discourage from participating. Would anyone be interested in something like that? I can contribute a little to it, but I'm pretty casual and therefore not rich.

FyrFytr998 · Apr 02, 2011, 04:45 PM // 16:45

Lol, just to throw this out there..... just because.

For general area Normal Mode...3 Discord Necros, 3 SF Ele's, and me as a caller with Necrosis is damn near instakill. My 7th hero is a ST Defensive Rit.

Perfect way to kill some time, lol.

Essence Snow · Apr 02, 2011, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998

Lol, just to throw this out there..... just because.

For general area Normal Mode...3 Discord Necros, 3 SF Ele's, and me as a caller with Necrosis is damn near instakill. My 7th hero is a ST Defensive Rit.

Perfect way to kill some time, lol.

Since you noted that you were using it for NM...isn't the ST defensive hero sorta pointless?

FyrFytr998 · Apr 02, 2011, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

Since you noted that you were using it for NM...isn't the ST defensive hero sorta pointless?

For chuckles, just because I can. You know I'm trying to avoid overkill, lol.

Deadfalk · Apr 03, 2011, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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Originally Posted by mortenya

yea, i was playing this after noon and it seemed like gwen was constantly dropping heals and didn't have time for PI, so i think i'll move her away from healing to something else.

I've found Gwen to be an ideal channeler, smiter or protter, for some reason the AI forces a hero with healing skills to dedicate 80% (if not more) of their time to healing, and thus healers with PI only use it at the start of the battle, when everyone is on full health.

Ouwebak · Apr 03, 2011, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Is there a way to get those team-templates into Pawned2?
I don't know the skills from the icons or short names (ST defensive rit?) so it might be usefull to read the full descriptions to understand the build or help me make better teambuilds myself.
What I've made myself so far have 1 thing in common: they don't work....