Curse

greenough · Apr 08, 2011, 12:15 AM // 00:15

4 Mes's are good but 5 is better

Kiluna · Apr 08, 2011, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Panic mes, inept mes, ST rit, SoS resto rit, 2xE/Me esurge and curses/resto necro scored me 21min AFK (ok, i wanted to see how it goes and was keeping EoE up).

AotL MM instead of one E/Me was alot smoother (0 near death situations, while without MM few heroes went to 20% several times), but stuff died slower because minions were keeping some mobs out of range. 24min AFK.

I was wondering as a Mo/X, what would add the most damage in? RoJ wont be that great because of burn immunity on destroyers, how would SigoJ+other smite signets with /Me and inscriptions mantra go? I don't know why i'm asking, i could go and try myself... :P

All heroes were set to aggressive.

zan the healer · Apr 08, 2011, 04:03 PM // 16:03

i find using
discord (make them all n/rt and take rejuvenation as a 3rd spirit)
2 keystone spammers
st rit
ua healer
makes this very easy even in hard mode the first wave is the only wave that gives a problem for me

loki1300 · Apr 14, 2011, 11:44 PM // 23:44

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Originally Posted by Mindtrust

Worked for me now also

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Mesmer 1: OQhkAkB8QGO0LAC4KQeGKQGwy3FD
Mesmer 2: OQhkAkB8QGO0LAC4KQeGKQGwy3FD
Ele/Mesmer 3: OgVDI8gsKnw0b65QTgCZAtA
Ele/Mesmer 4: OgVDI8gsKnw0b65QTgCZAtA
Nec/Rit 5: OAhkUwG7BFWTVANUJiZghvQV9iB
Rit 6: OACjEyiM5MXzyp3kZixkmTuLGA
Mo/me 7: OwUTMsGD3BuuR6iXkpfcb5zQAA

I put on survivor runes and runes of vitae, but not on every single piece and yeah not all of them have shields or so

Done it a few times now between 19-21 minutes afk

if some foes get stuck you can put on an extra minute, but i always try to get put my watch to 15min and come and check the last few minutes.

how are you doing this AFK? I set it up just like you, all heros with correct builds, and placement, I fail on 2nd wave, sometimes I don't even make it to the 2nd wave.

greenough · Apr 15, 2011, 12:08 AM // 00:08

he wasn't afk as we said after that post, he was there recasting bonds the whole time.

loki1300 · Apr 15, 2011, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by greenough

he wasn't afk as we said after that post, he was there recasting bonds the whole time.

you said he wasn't AFK, but he said right afterward that he was or did afk. Basically I'm confused to as what build Glints is possible to afk with if any because this sure isn't it.

Coney · Apr 16, 2011, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by Mindtrust

Worked for me now also

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I haven't had time to look into this in detail - interesting topic for sure! But, why do you run [splinter weapon], when you have no physicals? Shouldn't you use [painful bond] instead? Also, is the ineptitude build for the mesmers better than say, a panic build such as this one: OQBEAZMCPJRDIDcAK4kDknlBQEA (swap res for one of the last few skills)?

EDIT - I didn't realize AI will cast splinter on minions - but they attack so slow, will they actually get all 4/5 attacks off before they die (especially wimpy bone minions)?

greenough · Apr 17, 2011, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Coney

I haven't had time to look into this in detail - interesting topic for sure! But, why do you run [splinter weapon], when you have no physicals? Shouldn't you use [painful bond] instead? Also, is the ineptitude build for the mesmers better than say, a panic build such as this one: OQBEAZMCPJRDIDcAK4kDknlBQEA (swap res for one of the last few skills)?

EDIT - I didn't realize AI will cast splinter on minions - but they attack so slow, will they actually get all 4/5 attacks off before they die (especially wimpy bone minions)?

hero's auto attack

also panic is useless in this situation when your main objective is damage. you can stop them from casting for 9 seconds, but they keep coming, if your not killing them and only stopping them from casting then they'll eventually over run you.

Chai N Chill · Apr 21, 2011, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by greenough

I've switched things around a lot and found that a lot of builds work.

This first build will get you 20-22 minutes, you can change the Necro around to whatever you want as long as the first 2 skills stay the same, I've ran the build i posted above with it, this one, even a n/e with sandstorm and wards, pretty much any build will get the same time. i've used it to do over 25+ runs and only failed once.

This second one i'm currently testing, i didn't think it was doable without the minions but its actually faster, just replace the Necro with another Dom Mesmer, unsure of how stable it is though.

swapping out the second Dom for a keystone gave the same results, still want to try 4 Ineptitude, 4 Domination and 4 keystones to see how that goes, just haven't had time.

Picture of where to flag hero's

Edit: put on defensive set, or even just shield, every little bit helps, also make sure Mes's are set to aggressive.

Edit2: 2 Inept and 2 Keystones was same as above.

Would you mind linking your builds for that?

Also what runes/insignias are you using on your heroes?

zweetreet · Apr 21, 2011, 09:37 AM // 09:37

i'd say add this :

Air of Sup + Ebs of wisdom --> quick recharge on mesmers --> = win

Voodoo Rage · Apr 21, 2011, 02:57 PM // 14:57

I've never tried Glints before and it actually ended up being a lot easier than I expected. Was kind of shocked to see the chest spawn.

I was running (just my normal PvE team, didn't put too much thought into it)

Me: Sos Rit

Panic Mesmer
Ineptitude Mesmer
Jagged Bones Necro with a Channeling Secondary (Splinter and Ancestor's Rage)
Pain of Disenchantment Necro with Restoration Secondary heals
Unyielding Aura Monk
SoGM Rit
Soul Twisting Rit (Shelter, Displacement, Union)

dejsav · Apr 22, 2011, 06:32 PM // 18:32

I've tried again a lot of time...

1st wave: easy with EoE
2nd wave: difficult...Destroyer of Compassion (Dervish) kick ass...this wave is random
3rd wave: easy
4th wave: not easy when spawns Destroyer of Compassion
5th wave: difficul if you don't kill immediatly Destroyers of Lives
6th wave: easy

I use greenough build

zweetreet · Apr 22, 2011, 09:06 PM // 21:06

getting 18 minute runs constantly..

3 mesmers aren't equiped..
all my heroes have crappy weapons..

all this by afk

http://img829.imageshack.us/i/gw001q.jpg/

EDIT:

3x E-surge
2x Inept
1x SoS splinter / resto
1x emo prot ( ofcourse )

SongOf · Apr 22, 2011, 09:56 PM // 21:56

if you were AFK, how is EoE spirit in the middle of duration when you are the only party member with Ranger skills equipped?

dejsav · Apr 22, 2011, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by SongOf

if you were AFK, how is EoE spirit in the middle of duration when you are the only party member with Ranger skills equipped?

you need EoE only with the 1st wave

but you can't be afk during the 2nd wave...you need to target dervish destroyers

zweetreet · Apr 23, 2011, 02:06 PM // 14:06

just putting that up at the end..

have been staring @ my screen for +- 20 minutes.

might have triggered ward and EOE on bosses but that makes no different..

it's easy and everybody can do it..

the bonds are mainly as an extra enchantment for the e/mo so he gains more energy from ER.. ( yes he gets low sometimes because he can't keep ER up constantly --> and when there's a lot of dmg he will prot first and than use ER )

greenough · Apr 23, 2011, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by zweetreet

just putting that up at the end..

have been staring @ my screen for +- 20 minutes.

might have triggered ward and EOE on bosses but that makes no different..

it's easy and everybody can do it..

the bonds are mainly as an extra enchantment for the e/mo so he gains more energy from ER.. ( yes he gets low sometimes because he can't keep ER up constantly --> and when there's a lot of dmg he will prot first and than use ER )

Don't Bs. you sat there and used your skill bar the whole time. theres no way you used the build i posted and ended with a score like that by only using a skill once, with unruned hero's and shit weapons. your the second person to say you afk'd when you didn't and for what? why bs people about a computer game on an online forum? it makes no sense.

a side note, read what eoe does. its not going to help you in the last wave.

Rob2686 · Apr 24, 2011, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenough

Don't Bs. you sat there and used your skill bar the whole time. theres no way you used the build i posted and ended with a score like that by only using a skill once, with unruned hero's and shit weapons. your the second person to say you afk'd when you didn't and for what? why bs people about a computer game on an online forum? it makes no sense.

a side note, read what eoe does. its not going to help you in the last wave.

Registered just to verify this works.

I've mimicked these builds and have afked this at least 10 or 20 times. I don't have near the posted success rate though. I'd say it's 60-80% for me, granted my runes aren't complete.

I noticed I had way way better success after I runed the heroes (common sense I suppose)

Any tips for getting some good shields or (spears? is what people use?) I'm guessing like 5 energy 30 hp etc?

I'm a very poor player so this is a great way for me to make money. Are there rare items or skins I should be watching for?

greenough · Apr 25, 2011, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob2686

Registered just to verify this works.

I've mimicked these builds and have afked this at least 10 or 20 times. I don't have near the posted success rate though. I'd say it's 60-80% for me, granted my runes aren't complete.

I noticed I had way way better success after I runed the heroes (common sense I suppose)

Any tips for getting some good shields or (spears? is what people use?) I'm guessing like 5 energy 30 hp etc?

I'm a very poor player so this is a great way for me to make money. Are there rare items or skins I should be watching for?

you can get the "prayer of the forgotten" spear for 5k (book of secrets i think, can't remember) or just get a gold one to drop in nightfall or eotn and add a +5 energy to it.

SongOf · Apr 25, 2011, 02:56 PM // 14:56

@Rob2686:

If you're really poor, there are MANY good collectors weapons. For 5 Cobalt Talons you can get a +5e spear.

As for collector shields, there are too many to go over, BUT the attribute doesn't matter for casters, so choose the collector asking for the item that is easiest to farm or that you already have. Many are inscribleable as well.

You have the option to craft Asuran Spears for 40 wood, 20 granite and 5k at Rata Sum. You'll still need a +5 energy inscription, but if one is selling it you can take a chance with those 'unid golds for 700ea' sellers (not recommended, although cheaper than lockpicks).

I think Asuran equipment are still the cheapest req9 AND inscribleable CRAFTABLE stuff available (very convenient).

Regarding weapon mods, because of the way GW calculates damage you typically want +armor rather than +HP, the exception being vs. degen and if you want to avoid specific party members from being targeted (AI likes to target lowest total health- part of why DP'ed heroes are doomed to die even more)