Curse

Daesu · Mar 20, 2012, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunter

... any optimal hero build doesn't require more than 2-3 heroes of each class

I wonder how true that is. People have always needed to constraint themselves to the number of available heroes whenever they make a build. Would their builds all stay the same if this constraint is removed? Maybe most would stay the same but somehow I doubt ALL "optimal" hero builds would stay the same if everyone suddenly has 8 available heroes per class.

Pyrthas · Mar 25, 2012, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Just to add my 2 cents, after getting Zei Ri on my mesmer, I am using four mesmers (including me), partly just because I like mesmers, but it's also good damage and great disruption. The full team is very basic.

panic/dom/overpowered pve skills (me)
2x esurge w/fallback
1x esurge w/fallback, never surrender, and stand your ground (and guilt instead of mistrust)
sos resto
sogm
aotl prot
curses resto

Because I'm usually too lazy to change bars around for specific content, and I'm just vqing right now, I leave pain of disenchantment and enfeebling blood on the n/rt all the time. It's all more defense than is necessary, but things die fast enough, and I get to play very sloppy without any real worry, which lets me watch movies while vqing.

I've thought about going illusion instead on the last esurge, maybe with shared burden or something, but I like esurge/unnatural signet spam too much, and melee isn't really a problem. I'm not sure all the shouts are necessary, but I'm too lazy to test it.

I'm not sure I'd have room to fit a fifth mesmer in, though, even if I had mercs.

Gabs88 · Mar 25, 2012, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Posted a Shared Burden-Resto build earlier in the thread, with 4 mesmers it's a viable option. IMO it has both better offence and defence then N/Rt resto. Not as insane energy management but buildt around coping with that.

Pyrthas · Mar 26, 2012, 12:56 PM // 12:56

I saw your post and thought about trying it, but haven't actually given it a shot yet. It would let me replace the n/rt with an ele or something, I guess. (Mesmer #5 if I had mercs? Maybe! Edit: Actually, that would be kind of cute, and it's almost tempting...) I'm really not crazy about losing pwk, though. Life is good, too. Strong party heals let me be sloppy and not worry about flagging and microing.

Why no arcane conundrum, though? Seems like solid energy management to me.

Gabs88 · Mar 26, 2012, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Mesmer 3 on some physical builds and 4 on caster builds IMO. Still want AOTL / SoGM / SoS for the majority of all zones IMO.

Pyrthas · Mar 27, 2012, 12:43 AM // 00:43

I meant #5 counting me on a mesmer. (I do agree that minions and spirits are strong in most places.)