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Avatar Exico · Jul 13, 2012, 03:56 AM // 03:56

Hello Everyone, I made this build for paragons and paragon heros because of two reasons, one was cause paragons can provide decent offensive and defensive with shouts and chants, also can also do AoE Heals, Second reason is cause wanted to make builds that allow pets to deal decent damage with benefits from shouts because shouts also affect pets to.

All paragons even player should get 10/10/10/10 on attributes.
Also Paragons hero's should be set to Attack, so that when you attack a mob all paragon hero's will attack same target in spike motion thus making AoE+Burning hit all foes.

It was nice build and it did pretty well in DoA:City because with careful pull in all do all City without cons with the build on NM though with Cons would made it easier.

This build I made out of boredom and was something different for Paragons. I am open to ideas to improve it.

Thank you.

Sagittario · Jul 13, 2012, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Does LS monk have any problems with energy?
Heroes tend to waste all their energy with this.

Daesu · Jul 13, 2012, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico

It was nice build and it did pretty well in DoA:City because with careful pull in all do all City without cons with the build on NM though with Cons would made it easier.

City is easy. How does it perform in Foundry, if at all?

Šiljo · Jul 13, 2012, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Drop channeling for pdrain and res chants for leech or another heal/prot

I prefer rolling either sb or prot spirit, oot both coz heroes tend to spam sb like there is no tomorow.

Heal party swap for divine heal coz of ua and energy, cure hex is better than spotless and seed can also be replaced.

Avatar Exico · Jul 13, 2012, 09:24 PM // 21:24

nice ideas, ill add them. Monk Hero's tendency not to waste their energy that often, I was thinking somewhere put "They're on Fire" on one of paragons for Dmg reduction because of constant Burning from Anthem and because you have constant AoE Burning on all foes from Barrage and Volley.

Relyk · Jul 13, 2012, 11:12 PM // 23:12

City NM is pretty easy, the other areas would be nigh impossible with this setup even in NM. I'd be surprised if you completed it in under 40-45 minutes. The enemies on the wall must've sucked killing.

Drk Dervish · Jul 13, 2012, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico

Hello Everyone, I made this build for paragons and paragon heros because of two reasons, one was cause paragons can provide decent offensive and defensive with shouts and chants, also can also do AoE Heals

Second reason is cause wanted to make builds that allow pets to deal decent damage with benefits from shouts because shouts also affect pets to.

All paragons even player should get 10/10/10/10 on attributes.

Interesting build but the reasoning sound contradicting as paragon can provide decent offensive and defensive with shout and chant true. But Ranger BM have lot of shout that does that also AoE damage which para skill is missing. And with all the shout and chant only 1 is for defensive, and 1 is for +damage but is conditional and only 1 shot. All other is to cause condition and fuel your team with energy or adrenaline.

Para does have AoE heal but those AoE heal is hmm will...

Pet damage base off of BM attrib. If you want pet to do more damage BM should be pump up. Shout like predatory bond, otyugh' cry both add damage (damage come from speed), speed, defense and is spammable not a 1 shot deal. And with attib pts spread out in 4 level it seem like to thin for any one line to do any of those skill to be fully effective.

And since your already using bow not spear wouldn't Ranger be a better choice? I guess my question is why not Range heros as Primary? Ranger base armor doesn't lost out much when comparing with Para. In some places it's when better with a nature +30 vs. elemental damage.

I see 2 only two para Leadership base line skill 1 elite and 1 non elite wouldn't be more productive if those two skill is under 1 para hero and the other two as Ranger heros? Only leadership point bring in is extra pocket of energy, but if you go pet/bow ranger shouldn't have any energy issue + ranger have on +1e pip.

Avatar Exico · Jul 14, 2012, 04:32 AM // 04:32

Using Paragons cause with Paragons very rarely run out of energy, and I have tried this build on Hard Mode and does pretty well before HM changes. Rangers do have energy issue because wait energy to enough to spam other skills but yeah use Barrage or Volley at +1e but with paragons use all skills on your bar without issue of energy because with spammable of shouts keep you to full energy but I notice when making that Healing paragon had energy so when add Sc. Strike to his bar than solve all his issues made him spam all his chants. When in battle all chants stay up constantly. Elite ones are one for adr, Avoidance to Blocking, Crippling for snare.

Drk Dervish · Jul 14, 2012, 05:52 AM // 05:52

oh.. running barrage/volley/pet shout running out of energy. Have you try with a zealous bow at just 8 at expertise it's pretty much impossible to run out of energy. Range BM shout last long very long so it doesn't put pressure on energy at all.

Otyugh's cry - make your pet with +24 armor and attack is unblock able. Just one shout do two of your other.

Predatory Bond - give 25% speed to pet (pet attack rate is very very slow) = more damage + heal your hero per attack. Another 1 shout do two of your other.

But I guess your like para it would work too, but your actually giving up a lot of damage output from your pets then gaining.

Avatar Exico · Jul 15, 2012, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by Drk Dervish

oh.. running barrage/volley/pet shout running out of energy. Have you try with a zealous bow at just 8 at expertise it's pretty much impossible to run out of energy. Range BM shout last long very long so it doesn't put pressure on energy at all.

Otyugh's cry - make your pet with +24 armor and attack is unblock able. Just one shout do two of your other.

Predatory Bond - give 25% speed to pet (pet attack rate is very very slow) = more damage + heal your hero per attack. Another 1 shout do two of your other.

But I guess your like para it would work too, but your actually giving up a lot of damage output from your pets then gaining.

I have tried Zealous but having elemental bow strings helps. I like Paragon because it something different than B/p Ranger. Also Dmg output is not that bad because iv seen 80-100+ dmg from Barrage and similar to Volley when Find there weakness is up and Damage buff chant also helps to. Pets are only meant to tank mobs. What I gathered it happen numerous times that mobs seem to atk the pets more than party members. Also I used Black Bears as Pets on my Paragons because that monster skill helps procs chants and shouts.