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Kosar The Cruel · Jan 20, 2014, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by Roger Brownthorn

Hey great build this Rangerway thing, I am wondering what skills do you recommend to fill empty slots? What is the best pet to use for this? What do you use?
Why do you use flatbow? and why vampiric? what is the perfect bow green one?

Thanks

For skills, I run Distracting Shot and for some reason Arcing Shot or Keen Arrow Antidote Signet. Depending on the area, I might drop "Find Their Weakness" for Hex Eater Signet. For pets, I'm using Hearty as the pets will do little to no damage anyways.
Flatbows have the longest range and the fastest attack speed. This means the heroes move less and attack more. Vampiric is used in the build for additional damage as well as a minor constant heal.

Panda Girl · Jan 27, 2014, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Rangerway is a great build, thank you. Any idea where the best place to farm for the vampire bow strings are?

Roger Brownthorn · Feb 05, 2014, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Eh is it me or the hero does not like to cast blood is power like at all?

Shadow of Prowess · Feb 06, 2014, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by Roger Brownthorn

Eh is it me or the hero does not like to cast blood is power like at all?

Yeah happens for me as well that the heroes only cast the BiP on other caster heroes, to counter this I just micro the BiP spell to my 'x' button.

Roger Brownthorn · Feb 21, 2014, 08:17 AM // 08:17

For those of us with mercenary heroes, do you still recommend to bring a minion master necro or maybe another ranger?

Tueur · Mar 18, 2014, 09:22 PM // 21:22

Sorry for bumping this thread but i'm just wondering which skills are u guys using on rangers ? I'm talking about Rangerway btw

Wenspire · Mar 23, 2014, 08:55 PM // 20:55

If you are talking about the skills with a "?" in them, I would imaging one would be an interrupt. The other could possibly be a pet damage skill.

I would be interested in seeing how the build can complete DOA's Gloom in HM. That place always seemed very bad for melee/ranged characters because of the enviro effect (50% chance to miss).

bLeda · Apr 19, 2014, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Thanks for this build! Works great for quick assasinations of any target but struggles in prolonged battles. For free slots I recommend at least 2 x throw dirt as the only anti-melee is displacement which usualy dies fast. I still wonder if its possible to replace BiP with Motivation Paragon or Ranger with resto spirits... ;> Because im using this on Imbagon, I have replaced Protective Was with Pure Was for party wide 2 conditions removal - heroes use this pretty well.

Edit: Another good optional (definetly for imbagon player) is Disrupting Accuracy, since it even rupts attacks. Two rangers got it and its enabled only on 1, on the other im using it (numpad hotkey, same for spirits)

http://imageshack.com/a/img845/3594/b479.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img835/9350/nraq.png - actualy ignore that beast mastery 6, its not neccessary, so expertise / marksmanship 12/12

Another great way to fill optional slot is Unseen Fury. Encountering Raptors taught me its invaluable - definetly worth more then petty 48% chance for crit...

banda.daler · May 07, 2014, 12:49 AM // 00:49

It looks like a good build,

could you tell me if the dungeons can be done using rangerway?

Tyran Hellcaster · May 17, 2014, 11:48 AM // 11:48

Thanks for the comments guys. Been away so am a bit late answering:

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

I'm sure this has been discussed before but how synergistic is a Soul Twisting Rit with all those minions and pets? It seems like they are going to be absorbing a lot of those potential Shelter prots due to their low health.

The synergy lies exactly in shelter protting the minions. The minions do the tanking and their longevity protects your team and draws away knockdowns and hexes from your rangers. In HM especially, a minion basically becomes as tanky as a player due to shelter/union. It is ofcourse possible to turn the other spirits off when needed, which allows the soul twister to make a shelter every 5 seconds on average.

For the spirit build, with two soul twisters, this is not needed.

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Originally Posted by Kosar The Cruel

Replaced OoP on the N/Rt BiP'er with Blood Bond.

Is the blood bond to heal the team, or heal the minions from the after-effect?

Either seems somewhat unnecessary as the microheal is tiny, and the minions are expendable.

You know, over its duration one cast of OOP produces around 250-400 pure damage on average for 5 flatbow wielding rangers with expert's dexterity.

Granted, it's not always up, probably closer to half or two-thirds of the time. But it is still an impressively high damage output for a single skill.

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Originally Posted by Kosar The Cruel

For skills, I run Distracting Shot and for some reason Arcing Shot or Keen Arrow Antidote Signet.

The reason interrupts are not really productive is because targets go down so quick that you dont need it. The possible interrupts for this build do less damage than attack skills. And if anything, heroes may become distracted and interrupt another target instead of spiking off the target the human is calling. I would only use distracting shot in niche builds for the disable, against very high life bosses that take an age to kill.

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Originally Posted by Kosar The Cruel

For pets, I'm using Hearty as the pets will do little to no damage anyways.
Flatbows have the longest range and the fastest attack speed. This means the heroes move less and attack more. Vampiric is used in the build for additional damage

Spot-on. Also, the great range of flatbow often puts you outside the cast-range of ele nukers. Long range bows can also benefit the most from the damage multiplier when shooting at targets at a lower elevation of the map (down hill).

About Vampiric bow string, it does slightly more damage on average than sundering, but it is too small to worry much about.

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Originally Posted by Panda Girl

Any idea where the best place to farm for the vampire bow strings are?

Definitely kamadan, approximately 2-5k each.

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Originally Posted by Roger Brownthorn

Eh is it me or the hero does not like to cast blood is power like at all?

For rangerway the sole purpose of the BiP is to feed the rit infinite power. BiP is automatically used on a casting profession when the energy drops below 50%. It will be used more frequently when your party comes under more pressure.

BiP won't be automatically cast on the ranger heroes but that is no problem. If you are running 15 in expertise you should not have energy issues.

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Originally Posted by Roger Brownthorn

For those of us with mercenary heroes, do you still recommend to bring a minion master necro or maybe another ranger?

Definitely bring the minion master. Those minions take so many knockdowns and hexes away from your heroes.

Without minions you still have the pets, but their higher armor draws away much less attention from the heroes than minions do. Besides, the MM does his fair share of damage output. Death nova, putrid bile, and the minion's damage alone should deliver more damage on average than a 6th ranger.

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Originally Posted by Wenspire

If you are talking about the skills with a "?" in them, I would imaging one would be an interrupt. The other could possibly be a pet damage skill.

I put highly situational skills in the two miscelaneous slots usually. In fact, I have left town a few times without even filling those slots. Silly I know...but there is not much that you can put there that does not reduce the ranger's damage output.

Even more attack skills will reduce the frequency with which the existing ones are used. Especially in the case of volley, this means a fair bit less damage.

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Originally Posted by Wenspire

I would be interested in seeing how the build can complete DOA's Gloom in HM. That place always seemed very bad for melee/ranged characters because of the enviro effect (50% chance to miss).

A friend claimed to have completed it, but after trying numerous times..it does not seem possible, even with consets. I have updated the original post to reflect this.

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