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mugen · Jul 05, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30

Hi

I am a monk and i want to begin farming. (100% solo ... not 2-3 players like a necro SS with me...)
I ve already been playing sometimes a 55 Hp monk on minotaur ~2 years ago and earned about 10 K .....its all my loosely farming exp

I am looking for build for "solo" farming ectos, why not assisted with 1-2-3 heroes cause i suck badly a this

(i have all skill unlocked...)
Thx for your help

Abedeus · Jul 05, 2008, 01:31 PM // 13:31

Uhm.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Te...ine/Smite_Farm
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_600/Smite_UW
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_600/Smite_FoW
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_600_Rit/Smite

In farming, people > heroes.

mugen · Jul 07, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

has anyone tried something like
55hp + 3* protective bond / bip heros ?

Spiritz · Jul 07, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Tbh its not worth having heros around with a 55 monk as theres no real bonus unless ur just pinning them back out of range which then means their skills not needed.55`s are designed as solo and any heros interfering causes loss of agrro etc.
If your thinking of team then id suggest 600/smite team and you as the 600 ( wont work properly with hero tanks ).

Also recall heros if in radar gets drops so u may be getting less drops at times than pure solo also they get a share of cash - so ur 1k cash run turns into 500g cash run.
If your a 55 monk then u can solo gok/bergen hotsprings/cursed lands/fahranur ( niightfall) easily in hm and in nm
It takes a while to learn an get used to 55 monk but easy to test and train on - not like testing uw build and failing 30x an losing 30k.
If you want help just leave me a pm with your ign and i`ll try and arrange something - a few easy gok runs or something

Age · Jul 07, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

To solo farm the UW all you need is a SS/SV Necro look at the 4 Horseman pf Apoclyopse thread.

mugen · Jul 09, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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not like testing uw build and failing 30x an losing 30k

me

where can i train ? there is always a nightmare who gets me... .
I can use spellbeaker or an interrupt, i dont manage well
Sometime 2 nightmares pops.. i interrupt one but still die. i can farm basic place But where can i train for UW without spend 1k / try
I also like tryihng myself builds, but ...too expensive

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To solo farm the UW all you need is a SS/SV Necro

if we need to be 2 ... it isnt solo anymore

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Also recall heros if in radar gets drops so u may be getting less drops at times than pure solo also they get a share of cash - so ur 1k cash run turns into 500g cash run

you r right, but i dont care of this

i just want to use heroes to make it "easier & faster"

Nestaron · Jul 09, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by mugen

me

where can i train ? there is always a nightmare who gets me... .
I can use spellbeaker or an interrupt, i dont manage well
Sometime 2 nightmares pops.. i interrupt one but still die. i can farm basic place But where can i train for UW without spend 1k / try
I also like tryihng myself builds, but ...too expensive

if we need to be 2 ... it isnt solo anymore

you r right, but i dont care of this

i just want to use heroes to make it "easier & faster"

It isn't solo if you use Heros either.. They still get drops... They still take a shard of gold coins. In all honesty your better just going with an SS necro.

ccruzp · Jul 10, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by mugen

me

where can i train ? there is always a nightmare who gets me... .
I can use spellbeaker or an interrupt, i dont manage well
Sometime 2 nightmares pops.. i interrupt one but still die. i can farm basic place But where can i train for UW without spend 1k / try
I also like tryihng myself builds, but ...too expensive

nightmares have fixed possible spawn points , just learn then and you can cast SB then run so tehy pop up.
if you want to farm w/ heros ild do 600/smite.

Spiritz · Jul 10, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Nitemares do have set spawn points but others will agree there is a slight chance or non spawn or they spawn elsewhere.
At start of uw usually theres 1 at top of left steps and one just to side of steps leading to wraith - but often ive seen 2 at top left, 1 left and none right and 2 up at other end.
A good way to learn possible spawn points is 600/smite a few runs - and yes it does pay to be over cautious as when i do uw and the first chamber i count nitemares and if we only see 1 or 2 we try and find the others , better to find now that get chased or be passing thru and one pops up.

mugen · Aug 31, 2008, 12:10 PM // 12:10

Well, i ve tryed something; and it works
Here the build

Player 55 HP

[build=OwUVESROGXAZKiQuUDYXcJQEICIIAA] --> last skill useless here, it was a test - like putting illisionary weap on a hero, but i dont like it)

Hero monks (all 14 prot to get -3 mana / hits - dived by 3 hero = -1 mana per heroes / hit....)

[build=OwAU0WX8UoGHUkxTf7UmpUeA]
[build=OwIU4knCRMLH0/EP6T5jcpk8AA]
[build=OwIU4knCRMHHMe6D5bXmpUeA]

you need life bond => with balta aura to regen mana
NB : heroes can each maintain more enchants if needed (holy veil etc.)

Ex :

HOW TO RUN :

- all heroes enchants on you (including one balta aura)
- each heroes balta aura on himself (yes, it means a hero maintains 2 balta aura)
- flag heroes out of battle (let them manage themself the spirits)

- use anti interrupt stance
- spellbreak where you know nightmare pops + kill them fast with ebon assa OR empathy OR pain inverter

- ECHO + pain inverter vs axxte (it works, even with 55hp ! 80 dmgs)
- ECHO + empathy vs Coldfire Night
- ECHO + visage vs the rest (the 0mana / spirits kill them)
- assa / empat to help killing faster

- heroes never have any energy pb

WHAT CAN KILL YOU :
- nightmare without spellbreaker
- being interrupted trying to kill the nightmare
- AoE ... enemmies running away and reach your heroes
- high degen zone

Well i know it s not good since
-you have less chance to get items since its not solo run
-still can't do all zone
- not faster at all
But still, its easier for me - you have nothing to do you cant die / be uinterrupted / no skill timing etc.

Farming for dummies

If you die you can't res cause of -50 hp ...
First i had
[build=OwUVESROGXAZKiQuUDYXcJQEICIkAA]
[build=OwAU0WX8UoGHUkxTfMUmpUeA]
so = infinite try / res ... before skill change lol ... they nerfed my secret weapon ^^
i put vengeance to try to remove the cest from hand before a normal res

I think it as really has potential to be improved

3 * bonder + 55hp = "immortal" 0 micro-management, put enchants and dot... every class can be main and have 8 attack skills depending on what zone you aim (high degen / anti enchant etc.)
+ you have 5% reduce instead of the 10% from prot spirit, so even the Derviches can have a chance^

Mr.Kotte · Aug 31, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Looks pretty solid, but yeew at all enchantments. :P

boarderx · Sep 02, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

skills like prot bond and life bond can only go on you once, so if one hero puts those on you the next hero that does that just erased the 1st heros enchts

plus heros steal ur ectos, you can 600 smite with a hero and in HM too, that would be ur best bet if you want to bring a hero

prot bond is nice be it can never hold up to a larger aggro, you need to pick off foes in small groups or else energy will be gone quick

interesting concpet though

btw, if on wrong on any of this feel free to correct me but imo 600/smite would be right up ur ally

mugen · Sep 02, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

well there is 3* prot bond, so mana lost is split (look at wiki : The energy loss can be split between multiple people maintaining the same enchantment on one character. Two players with 8 Protection Prayers will each lose -2 energy per hit. Three players at 13 Protection Prayers will each only lose -1 energy per hit)

-1 mana / hits cause of prot bond
+1/2 mana / hits cause of link + balta
= infinite prot bond and you have 8 skills for you
its the concept

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prot bond is nice be it can never hold up to a larger aggro

you can, its infinite with the combo

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skills like prot bond and life bond can only go on you once, so if one hero puts those on you the next hero that does that just erased the 1st heros enchts

You have only one benefit, but all heroes maintain it .
link + balta * 3 => you only get one link reduce, but the linker heroes all takes the damages.

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plus heros steal ur ectos, you can 600 smite with a hero and in HM too, that would be ur best bet if you want to bring a hero

yeah, certainly, but i suck at it

i easily lost 40 K tries and still suck at it
with infinite protbond and 0 skills to use to maintain protection, its easier

legacyofkain85 · Sep 02, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

prot bond is quite dead,leave it be .use prot spirit ,there is a reason people run with 600/smite insted of 55 +3 heroes dont u agree?And tbh prot bond doesnt even compare to what spirit bond was ,ps+spirit bond=tank any number of foes(before the nerf ofc)

boarderx · Sep 03, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

well if prot bond does work like that you still have a large amount of heros stealing your loot unforunately, it will be hard to make good money from that but if it works for you im not gonna bash it.

my opinion has always been if your gonna farm try not to take more then 1 hero since they are loot stealers.

good luck!