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Avatar Exico · Feb 05, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Yap it is real I tested it when I used to do the Halycon Farm when it was released to the public and got some very interesting Results, The Drops were Dot on exact. When I did it with my Monk used SS very interesting Result came got way better drops than you get on SoJ, and my max in that run was 10 golds tops i was shocked in 4-5hrs of doing it make rofly 20k+ in Merchant Stuff but the Golds helped alot. Halycon on HM is best you will get for TH Title there about 2 Chests around that place every single run. Also it good place to get Non ins Dragon Staffs that sell for 100k+. I tryed on my Necro/Mo with SS again and what ya know got exact drops that I got on my Monk.

stretchs · Feb 05, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse

I guess your PC's are connected to the same internet connection via router?
Just curious.. for the sake of science.

Have patience when you try to sync your entrance.. sometimes it takes
quite a few tries to get it right.. you just gotta keep trying.
Would love to see the result of your run!

As for me, I've been busy vanquishing.. and the only farming I've done in
the meanwhle is the Raptor farm to afford all the lockpicks I break during
vanquishing.

I can't really say I've found any new suitable area for further testing yet.. but
I've got some places left so I'll keep looking.

Have fun!

Yep, I have 5 pcs on my router at home that can play gw. I have 2 accnts that can access all places in all continents so i could test this similar to what you and your brother are doing. You could probably also test the raptor cave you were speaking about with an E/A and a W/Rt the E/A is more all at once and the W/Rt is gradual. Also the Hulking Stone Elementals outside of Sardelac would be a place that you could also test a similar farm.

Skinny Corpse · Feb 05, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by stretchs

Yep, I have 5 pcs on my router at home that can play gw. I have 2 accnts that can access all places in all continents so i could test this similar to what you and your brother are doing. You could probably also test the raptor cave you were speaking about with an E/A and a W/Rt the E/A is more all at once and the W/Rt is gradual. Also the Hulking Stone Elementals outside of Sardelac would be a place that you could also test a similar farm.

The thing is you need to be able to determine if you've managed to sync
the enterance.. in Fahranur it's ideal cuz of the different spawns of skales; same
spawns, most likely synced.
The stone elementals might actually work tho.. there's a few different spawns
as it appears.. might just give that a try.

stretchs · Feb 05, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Always worth giving it a try regardless. Maybe I will try to set a script so it will enter the zone on X time on my pc clock so that they are moving at identical times

Skinny Corpse · Feb 06, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Indeed.. as you don't have to worry about latancy it might very well work.
Looking forward to the results!

sungod88 · Feb 06, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

ok new update there is also another factor to drops. if u die during the farm drops decrease dramatically in quality. I went a run with no deaths and got 3 golds in 5 minutes from 2 groups. so yea death is also a factor

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 06, 2008, 04:40 AM // 04:40

This does make sense compared with my own findings while experimenting around.

Your drops are way better than I make, though :P

tuna-fish_sushi · Feb 06, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Now to find a way to use this new find! I say if you have 2 computers and can do this yourself then you can have them sync and 1 character do the run and if a good item drops that had a good mod (+30 health or something) then the other character can just run to the monster that dropped it and get another +30 mod!

would also be good farming Elite Tomes or something i dont know so many possibilities!

Skinny Corpse · Feb 06, 2008, 08:50 AM // 08:50

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Originally Posted by sungod88

ok new update there is also another factor to drops. if u die during the farm drops decrease dramatically in quality. I went a run with no deaths and got 3 golds in 5 minutes from 2 groups. so yea death is also a factor

From what we've seen during our runs, this is not the case. We've had deaths
but we've seen no change in the loot thb.
In my opinion you really need something to compare you run to.. a single run doesn't say that much, really.

I'd rather say you had a lucky run.

flettir · Feb 10, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

This is potentially the most interesting thing I've seen on Guild Wars.

However, it feels to me that this is strongly linked to the fact that you're both essentially on the same connection, being to the same router. When you both loaded up the map at the same time, the server sent your router 2 packets of information about drops, etc. I'm guessing since the time was exactly the same, the 2 packets could have gotten mixed up or something, or the similar nature and source and most importantly affixed time of the packets caused one to be deleted as an error or redundancy, and thus both computers got the same packet of information.

Have you tried doing this with two people not on the same connection?

Armond · Feb 10, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41

We've been over this. They're in different states, and other people have been able to reproduce the results.

Antithesis · Feb 10, 2008, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by Armond

We've been over this. They're in different states, and other people have been able to reproduce the results.

Yep, what Armond said. If you'd taken some time to read the thread, you would have found that they are not in the same location. They are two independent time-synced and mob-synced instances using different routers, IPs, ISPs and quite possibly different timezones. And that is why this data is so interesting.

Armond · Feb 10, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

In all fairness, there's a huge chunk of thread here... but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned in the past few pages, hasn't it?

Skinny Corpse · Feb 10, 2008, 12:04 PM // 12:04

I actually can't find it now, but it's been covered.. and Antithesis and Armod
are right.. different connections, different ISPs.

RadaArashi · Mar 19, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05

I find it pretty odd because I checked the profit I would get from farming Plains of Jarin with my VwK Rit and Moebius Sin (GPS->TFangs->MS->CritStrike->MS->CritStrike) and I like many others found that I got more gold from doing runs with my assassin.

Also before the Flame Djinn Haste nerf, I would split the raptor nestling groups in 3 sections and found I also got more drops from doing that than to aggro everything and then unleash the Fire Magic chain.

Any thoughts?

Chthon · Mar 19, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

[edit: Didn't realize this was a rezzed thread.
Sill, I thank whoever rezzed it, since it's a monumental discovery.]

Crippie its Tom · Mar 19, 2008, 12:23 PM // 12:23

hmm... you should check different builds/areas...

such as sardelac sanctarium on a nuker and something else.

TheBigL481 · Mar 19, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Congratulations on these findings

Very interesting stuff, and well carried out experiments to prove them. I don't know what realistic benefits this could have to farming, but we can at least assume every x amount of time (somewhere between 0 and 1 second) the spawns (and simultaneously their dropped items) are randomized, or changed based on a predetermined script.
At least its intriging to know that drops are replicable, and not calculated on the death of the enemy.

revelation · Mar 25, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

I'd like to see this test at... Raptor Cave? As far as I've seen, at the tests you didn't kill many mobs at once, few at once with different builds, that's all.. Can someone do this at raptors with fire and earth build?

davdman0100 · Mar 26, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

lol i dont understand why people are like "its obviously fake because u cant get same drops"....well are u tellin me that u know how jagex runs its drop rate? isnt it possible that these two players literally figured it out? just because it seems impossible doesnt mean its not true, u have no reason to say its not true because u dont know if this is how the drop rate runs or not.
just my opinion.