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Szymaa · Dec 10, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by Coney

Really? I was using it during Halloween on my ranger (so substituted the EotN 50% block skill with Ranger 75% one), and it seemed to work fine. Took me about an hour to really master how it worked (activate certain skill[s] while moving and raptors outside melee), but once I did, I'd only die about 1 every 10-20 runs...
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Does this build absolutely require Air of Superiority to work? and if so, why?

Sora267 · Dec 10, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15

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Originally Posted by Szymaa

Does this build absolutely require Air of Superiority to work? and if so, why?

From my experience, no build with Air of Superiority actually requires it; however, it drastically speeds up runs due to the all skills recharged bonus, and as such, is highly recommended for this kind of thing.

monolito · Dec 10, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

[QUOTE=Voodoo Rage;4391906]Does anyone actually know how sliver is coded to decide who to target? It generally seems to prefer the broodmother first but occasionally will ignore her for a very long time (I've taken down 20+ nestlings without the broodmother ever getting targeted on my initial cast).

I heard a few times Sliver targets the strongest of all the closest enemies.Seems to be true but as U noticed-Rekoff gets ingored a sometimes by it.
As to ur build-R/E pwns this E/Me build.

sentex · Dec 10, 2008, 08:26 AM // 08:26

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

I'd say he/she is talking about the D/W one. I've never seen that D/A one before, at least not that I remember anyway.

Maybe you're right. I thought in that one because the D/W variant was posted.

I found the D/A on PvX: D/A Corrupted Raptor Farmer

I've never tried the D/W variant, i'll give it a try.

monolito · Dec 10, 2008, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by Szymaa

Does this build absolutely require Air of Superiority to work? and if so, why?

Yes,it does.AoS is essential bcause it's basically impossible to clear all the raptors with one Sliver.With a lil bit of random luck Sliver recharges enuf times for ya to clear each and every nestling in the cave

BogusDude · Dec 10, 2008, 11:49 AM // 11:49

heres some of the builds i use with videos, all but the last one includes the boss kill.
Sliver + Ebon Battle Standard of Honour rocks

[NE Raptors HM;OAZDYTyLTuDKDsDxloCwl8Q5iA ]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag2TWK4MULI

[EMe Raptors HM;OgVDMZycSlCfVKB8Q5ioAmARAA]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dsdFVRK84q0

[RE Raptors HM;OgYTk4FfHydQZgdQ4AVAukHKXEA]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cBFI2kjRyVE

[RA Raptors NM;OgcUcFM7t/S+GHH8I6MKHuluiBMA]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TVntcamrONU

BrettM · Dec 10, 2008, 01:38 PM // 13:38

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

It doesn't really matter either way. They both last 10 seconds (+20% from enchanting mod), so one will always run out within a second of the other.

The duration was not the reason for my question, though. Can Intensity increase the damage from a spell that was cast before Intensity was cast? That just doesn't seem very likely to me. I suspect that Intensity must be cast first if you want to increase the damage done by Sliver Armor.

Spiritz · Dec 10, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Sliver is a weird damn skill - wiki says it chooses target randomly but even thats random
EG. Vasberg armoury and go into eternal grove in hm , round up the 2 mobs and merge into scar eaters mob and cast sliver - now im surrounded with melee and kirins and the boss - who does sliver pick 100% time - the monk boss .
Now if i run past to ele boss with a mob what happens - 8/10 times it ignores ele boss and goes either melee or kirins - thats damn weird
Raptors id say is usually 8/10 times as well as several runs ive just had broodmother left as it ignored her.
Now ppl say shoot boss first an sliver locks - ive never had it yet happen.
Also once in a while sliver switches its target mid way - also annoying lol

So in my books slivers weird and often time consuming to kill bosses but other times its fine - anet shud make sliver target choosable or improve its auto lock so it sticks till target dies ( yes it almost does that now but we`d all prefer 100% lock rather than 75% with 25% of it not locking )

The New Bp · Dec 11, 2008, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by BrettM

The duration was not the reason for my question, though. Can Intensity increase the damage from a spell that was cast before Intensity was cast? That just doesn't seem very likely to me. I suspect that Intensity must be cast first if you want to increase the damage done by Sliver Armor.

Yes intensity Does Work for previous casted spells i use it that way

Sora267 · Dec 11, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by BrettM

The duration was not the reason for my question, though. Can Intensity increase the damage from a spell that was cast before Intensity was cast? That just doesn't seem very likely to me. I suspect that Intensity must be cast first if you want to increase the damage done by Sliver Armor.

Let's say that, hypothetically, Meteor Shower lasts for 20 seconds and deals 100 damage per hit (Let's ignore armor and damage reduction for now). Intensity lasts for 10 and boosts damage by 20% (remember, hypothetically). Let's say you cast Meteor Shower, and five seconds later, cast Intensity. For the first 5 seconds of Meteor Shower, it will deal 100 damage per hit. Once you cast Intensity, for those 10 seconds it is active, Meteor Shower will deal 120 damage (Or +20%) per hit. Once Intensity runs out, there should be around 5 seconds left of Meteor Shower. In these five seconds, Meteor Shower will go back down to its base damage.

In short, if a spell is cast before Intensity, then its damage is still boosted for Intensity's duration only.

BogusDude · Dec 11, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26

and Ebon battle Standard of honour works in the same way with sliver, you don't have to cast the ward first, the dmg from sliver will increase when EBSoH is cast until one of them runs out.

BrettM · Dec 11, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

@previous three posters: Thank you for the clarification.

Voodoo Rage · Dec 12, 2008, 07:37 AM // 07:37

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Originally Posted by Szymaa

Does this build absolutely require Air of Superiority to work? and if so, why?

Not necessarily. I don't use it with the my ele build at all. You will get a free recharge as soon as the Broodmother goes down, so usually you will get 2 full casts of sliver. The problem is that for a ranger (which can only take Earth magic to 12), 2 casts of sliver, even boosted by EBSOH and Intensity, may not get you your 25+ kills to get the Asuran points. So, being able to cast sliver a 3rd time is usually necessary.