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Popcorn Devil · Sep 29, 2008, 12:17 PM // 12:17

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Originally Posted by Timoliquid

hey i think this is a good build to farm the raptors very fast and effective but im wondering would this work for a survivor and do u really need By Urals hammer??

Don't use for survivor, likely to die.

Yeah, Urals Hammer is needed a fair bit.

Habs69M · Oct 27, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12

Realy nice build, wondering if we could farm other places with this build, i will try and look around but if someone found another place please chare

in raptor cave took about 4 1/2 hrs i got a stack of ToT bags around 30 golds 2 white and a black dye plus about 25 sintomes hehe not bad

Winston · Oct 27, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

That was about the same time it took me to get a stack.

I've been thinking about other places to use this build, it seems to be fairly specific to the Raptor Nestlings though.

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 27, 2008, 07:46 AM // 07:46

For this to work you need a massive bunch of melee creatures that have a block skill up all the time. That's pretty much just raptors, afaik anyway.

beserk · Nov 01, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

do i need a perfect scythe for this farm? or can i use mox's one?

Anubis Servants · Nov 01, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

can you repost the w/d video it does not seem to open for me.

MisterB · Nov 01, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by beserk

do i need a perfect scythe for this farm? or can i use mox's one?

You'll want a 20% enchant weapon, but it doesn't have to be on a scythe. Just remember to swap to any scythe before you attack or use whirlwind. The Nightfall pre-order scythe has a 20% enchant grip if you have that available.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 02, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by beserk

do i need a perfect scythe for this farm? or can i use mox's one?

Sand Shards only triggers on 'scythe attacks that fail to hit'. If you Whirlwind with a sword, for example, you'll probably hit a few raptors, but you won't get the big SS explosion from it. Thats the only requirement. Use a starter scythe if you want. Or the banana scythe. The soulbreaker you get from the nightfall CE has an enchant mod, so I suppose thats optimal, but it doesn't really matter.

beserk · Nov 02, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

Right what am i doing wrong here guys!! Nm is so effortless for me to clear the whole cave out excluding the boss...however hm is a diff story!!!

I sprint to cave, stop at entrance cast sands run in aggro them dolyak>wary>eternal aura> defy pain>by urals hammer (autoattack) then wary again then whirlwind and i seem to die with them all on 10% health because i lose aggro and then they come back.

Attribs: 15 str 11 earth and 5 tactics
Health:500
Energy: 40 (incl asuran bonus)
SS rank: 8
weapon: mox scythe

I am having trouble knowing when to auto attack and how often it seems also cant trap them (but feel no pains video didnt show any trapping at all yet he did it).

spun ducky · Nov 02, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47

The only other spot I can think this build might work is elona reach minotaurs at the start since they spam wary stance. It would be worth testing at the very least.

beserk · Nov 02, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by spun ducky

The only other spot I can think this build might work is elona reach minotaurs at the start since they spam wary stance. It would be worth testing at the very least.

what? what has minotaurs got to do with anything they dont even block which makes shards useless...anyways id be very grateful if someone could plz read over my last post and help me out.

Rubain · Nov 02, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

I used the Sand Shard idea on a 105 HP monk outside of Heroes' Audience to farm Sand Elementals paired with Fleeting Stability, because of the elementals spamming Erruption you are blinded most of the time, imo faster then SoJ because they are KDable^^

spun ducky · Nov 02, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by beserk

what? what has minotaurs got to do with anything they dont even block which makes shards useless...anyways id be very grateful if someone could plz read over my last post and help me out.

They use wary stance which blocks attack skills aka allowing a giant spike with sand shards and whirlwind attack... I am also not responding to your question as I don't have a suitable character to do this build so I have no way of telling you what your doing wrong I am just responding to the thread in general with other possible places to use this build.

Mr. Undisclosed · Nov 02, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

lol I love this build, I always take breaks from using my ele or sin just to use this one.

beserk · Nov 02, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

so can anyone whos read my post point me in the right direction?

MisterB · Nov 02, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by beserk

so can anyone whos read my post point me in the right direction?

Don't auto-attack. From reading your sequence in that post, I think that is your problem. Whirlwind should trigger Sand Shards enough to kill them after you drop them down with Eternal Aura. If it doesn't, then you may not have gathered enough Raptors, your SS rank is not high enough for Eternal Aura to deal enough damage, or not enough of them have Critical Defenses up. If you watch the video again, you will see that don't feel no pain does not attack before Whirlwind.

I think you are confusing the D/W method with the W/D one.

SpiritThief · Nov 05, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29

I've just got everything to together and I'm gonna try this alittle later tonight. It looks dope, and just again makes me love my earth prayers even more.

Question,

I'm still gonna give it a shoot but I'm one point short on earth, missing the hood point. Anyone tryed it that way yet? I'll get the hood when I get more gold but just asking.

Rixigo · Nov 05, 2008, 06:27 AM // 06:27

I have question. What if i don't have Prophecies? I can't use Wary Stance :/ . Any ideas?

Edit:
Hmm sorry but... any ideas without Factions? ^^

zwei2stein · Nov 05, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

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Originally Posted by Rixigo

I have question. What if i don't have Prophecies? I can't use Wary Stance :/ . Any ideas?

Furious Axe under FGJ should charge it fast, you just need axe weapon swap.

Nechtan Thaumaturge · Nov 05, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

100 posts! Thanks to everyone for the comments and the build tweaks!

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Originally Posted by Rixigo

I have question. What if i don't have Prophecies? I can't use Wary Stance :/ . Any ideas?

Edit:
Hmm sorry but... any ideas without Factions? ^^

I'm assuming that you're running the D/W version here. You really need Wary Stance for blocking Disrupting Stab more than anything, and it is hard to replace in that capacity. However, you can use Dust Cloak, if you are desperate. The trick is to cast it 30-odd seconds before the battle. As a rule of thumb, cast it as you pass the Sky Krewe Member. Then, when you are in the cave and aggro'ing try to keep running until Dust Cloak starts to blink (but no longer than that). If you time it right, you'll blind the Raptors for long enough to get some adrenaline, then follow with Whirlwind Attack.

Also, without Prophecies, you're also not going to have access to "To The Limit!", so you'll have to build adrenaline with Cyclone Axe (and a weapon swap) or something like that.

If you have Prophecies, but not Factions, then there's no problem, as none of the skills are Factions-based.

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Originally Posted by SpiritThief

Question,

I'm still gonna give it a shoot but I'm one point short on earth, missing the hood point. Anyone tryed it that way yet? I'll get the hood when I get more gold but just asking.

15 Earth Prayers will work, assuming you have "By Ural's Hammer!" and follow the rest of the build advice closely. Also, if you're short on Mysticism as well, just cast Avatar of Balthazar later, around the cave mouth.