Curse

blackknight1337 · Oct 23, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00

yeah meeting your shield req ftw, though having a couple sec longer enraging charge isn't that bad

out of curiousity, how many smites have you gotten with your biggest aggro? there's one spawn i seen the other day that there were smites all along the right side of the big O, as well as 2 or 3 more groups to the right of them, 6 groups at the least.

too bad they fight each other like mad...and you sit there going "aww man, there goes my ecto for the run"

dont feel no pain · Oct 23, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by blackknight1337

yeah meeting your shield req ftw, though having a couple sec longer enraging charge isn't that bad

out of curiousity, how many smites have you gotten with your biggest aggro? there's one spawn i seen the other day that there were smites all along the right side of the big O, as well as 2 or 3 more groups to the right of them, 6 groups at the least.

too bad they fight each other like mad...and you sit there going "aww man, there goes my ecto for the run"

I think my best ever has been 21, but that was alot of luck, on most Great spawns they go canibal on each other... yeah like you said...

max_rulez · Oct 24, 2007, 12:32 PM // 12:32

my best was 27 smites. pretty lucky tho. when they go canibal, just go stand in the middle and hit cyclone, then run away to where ever your gonna kill em again. works most of the time.

blackknight1337 · Oct 24, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00

yeah what sucks is if you get bodyblocked and then they go cannibal, zealots fire spike go go go go

worse yet is hitting triple chop when half them have soj up

{IceFire} · Oct 24, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Weird-I am running full knight's insignias and sup absorb and -2 stance shield-the graspings are still hitting me for 5-6-7-8-9 dmg with no stance up-I've died 3 times on the graspings now. i've tried to keep bonetti's up as much as possible but they still get me. should i be using phys resistance for this part? I don't understand how I see in the vid he is getting hit for 0-2 dmg but i am hitting for 7-8 with the same setup. Running the axe build, btw...

angmar_nite · Oct 24, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

shelter mod?

Dark Tykane · Oct 25, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Originally Posted by {IceFire}

Weird-I am running full knight's insignias and sup absorb and -2 stance shield-the graspings are still hitting me for 5-6-7-8-9 dmg with no stance up-I've died 3 times on the graspings now. i've tried to keep bonetti's up as much as possible but they still get me. should i be using phys resistance for this part? I don't understand how I see in the vid he is getting hit for 0-2 dmg but i am hitting for 7-8 with the same setup. Running the axe build, btw...

Haha
Yes, use physical resistence.

angmar_nite · Oct 25, 2007, 12:07 AM // 00:07

he can't... I don't need it. Bonetti will keep canceling it out. Unless he uses a zealous axe.

{IceFire} · Oct 25, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Yeah, which is the problem as I can't have energy for SV/AV without bonetti's. I dont have a shelter mod, but I didn't think that was needed..

angmar_nite · Oct 25, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Might not be. What kind of -2 you have? I actually use enchantment ones over stance ones, because I'd rather have more protection from the graspings than a 2 second gap against the smites.

blackknight1337 · Oct 25, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05

you should have a physical mod (+7) on your icy weapon

graspings hit me for about 6s only on crit, most of the time like 2s and 3s

when you go below your safety level (for me i do about 200hp) use zealous axe and physical resistance, you will take 0 dmg

key to taking graspings is getting your visage up and keeping them from spamming fear me, if you pull all 12 you don't even have to have bonnettis up to cover for later visages

once you switch to zealous you should have no problem having energy provided you keep a visage up

sometimes graspings take me 5 min if ya get skullcracked trying to put a visage up repeatedly, one trick if you already have PR up and no energy, wait till PR is recharged, then hit bonettis, let it charge up you energy, visage, then back into PR, then triple chop > whirling, etc

dont feel no pain · Oct 25, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

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Originally Posted by blackknight1337

you should have a physical mod (+7) on your icy weapon

graspings hit me for about 6s only on crit, most of the time like 2s and 3s

when you go below your safety level (for me i do about 200hp) use zealous axe and physical resistance, you will take 0 dmg

key to taking graspings is getting your visage up and keeping them from spamming fear me, if you pull all 12 you don't even have to have bonnettis up to cover for later visages

once you switch to zealous you should have no problem having energy provided you keep a visage up

sometimes graspings take me 5 min if ya get skullcracked trying to put a visage up repeatedly, one trick if you already have PR up and no energy, wait till PR is recharged, then hit bonettis, let it charge up you energy, visage, then back into PR, then triple chop > whirling, etc

nice to hear someone gets how to do the graspings with this build

blackknight1337 · Oct 25, 2007, 07:22 AM // 07:22

took me a while to get how to pull all of them at once, but after that its not hard

chief problems are if a nm pops and follows you down, or if he pulls an attaxe down with him, either way he should be killed asap otherwise he rends visages and is a pita, not to mention his dmg isn't affected by PR thus he can kill you on low health, though he tends to bip himself to death before he can do that

@ dont feel, chamber done in 1 min ftw

d3mented · Oct 26, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Hey Dont Feel no Pain, nice looking build, but I was just wondering if this is doable without Factions (so no AV and Triple Chop)

dont feel no pain · Oct 27, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by d3mented

Hey Dont Feel no Pain, nice looking build, but I was just wondering if this is doable without Factions (so no AV and Triple Chop)

afraid not, most uw builds require to visages as does this, though there are nightfall versions with rending aura.

fantomas · Oct 27, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46

I lured 3-4 groupes of smites, but when i killed them (15 smites) i only got 2 drops, did some runs with same result and no ecto :/

It seems if u kill many in one time u will get less drops, is that correct?

blackknight1337 · Oct 27, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

less junk drops, ecto doesn't seem affected, the speed makes up for it

Cobalt · Oct 28, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

I started attaining the skills for the Axe build got most of them but noticed one is a Sunspear skill and have not taken my War through Nightfall yet.

You probably need to get Sunspear rank 8-10 to really make this build work right?

knives · Oct 28, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

I started attaining the skills for the Axe build got most of them but noticed one is a Sunspear skill and have not taken my War through Nightfall yet.

You probably need to get Sunspear rank 8-10 to really make this build work right?

Not really. The attk is there to gain adr + energy back so you can spam visages + axe attks (for more energy/adr). The added dmg of whirlwind is basically just a plus.

Great build DFNP, too bad I always forget to switch to zealous weapon after luring and screw up all my runs. =/

Dark Tykane · Oct 28, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

he can't... I don't need it. Bonetti will keep canceling it out. Unless he uses a zealous axe.

so use a zealous axe
as for bonetti's just don't use it ALL the time only use it 1 time
it should be when physical resistence is at least 75% charged let them get your energy full and cast sv then immediately after (NOT DURING) the cast you put physical resistence back up and keep sv and av going (with help of the zealous)
you wont take any damage this way unless you time it wrong or they get a couple hits while bonneti's is up