Curse

dont feel no pain · Oct 20, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by MBP

so save the charge for when u get them in your aggro?

agro - charge - kill

blackknight1337 · Oct 20, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

yeah i'm using the cheap way atm, have some birthday cupcakes from the event so i just use one of them

when you pull the other 2 groups, you have to go a little back and break aggro, but come back a little when you have, otherwise you tend to lose one of the groups of graspings

tis fun aggroing smites when you have permanent run boost though, i just walk backwards, works fine

3 ecto first run this morning, 2 in another, 3 runs without

angmar_nite · Oct 21, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

I can take the graspings ok now, but how much damage should the smites be doing to me? a group of 4 takes me down pretty fast. WITHOUT SoJ. What's the skill order once you aggro?

dont feel no pain · Oct 21, 2007, 11:07 AM // 11:07

Agro with physical resistance on and your + 7 armor vs physical sword/axe.

Stop in safe place and try to have 15 energy when you stop then chnge to zealous axe/sword of enchanting.

Visage -> Wait 2 seconds ->
cyclone axe -> whirling attack -> Triple Chop -> Whriling attack -> cyclone -> Whirling attack -> Visage -> cyclone axe -> whirling attack -> Triple Chop -> Whriling attack -> cyclone -> Whirling attack -> Visage -> cyclone axe -> whirling attack -> Triple Chop -> Whriling attack -> cyclone -> Whirling attack -> they should be dead now.

that would usuualy take on a group over 6 smites around 20 seconds to kill off if done right, also you can renew physical resistance while doing you attack combos easily becauase the energy gain can be insane.

angmar_nite · Oct 21, 2007, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Wait, here's my gear:

Only one sword: Zealous 15^50 swordsmanship +

Armor is minor tactics rune, tactics helm, strength minor, vigor major, and absoption on Legs. Then I have all + energy insignias, except for a lieutenants on the chest piece. Lastly, my shield is Geoffer's Bulwark.

My skillbar is the exact same as your's except for sun and moon slash, which I've replaced with lions comfort.

I'm trying to save up for a icy axe of shelter for the graspings and the smites and a zealous axe of enchanting.

Now I know, that's not all the gear I SHOULD have... but what do I need to do? I'm also trying to get my hands on arrahhshi's aegis, which seems to fit the shield discreption quite adequately.

blackknight1337 · Oct 21, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31

thats why your dying so fast

the gear for this run is exact, you MUST have knights insignia on your armor, this and the shield turn 4's and 7's into 0's, with 3's for critical hits

and why in hell do you have lieutenants on the chest piece, thats -20 armor and you get hit most in the chest by far

you pretty much have no choice but to run the exact equipment he posted, otherwise you will never be able to run the axe version, i'm not 100% on the sword cause i've never used that build

done right the axe build can take out 20 smites at once, i've seen some beautiful spawns in UW lately that you can aggro 30 or more at once, that might be a little much though, as you don't have a self heal

also, whats the deal with way more smite groups that try to kill everything else, i've been seeing 2 and 3 fights in UW most times lately, used to be rare to see one

oh yeah and i freaking hate the coldfire glitch that sticks that patrol right in the entrance to other half of smites, thats cost me a couple runs as well

angmar_nite · Oct 21, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Well.. I'm on the axe build now, with all the right armor and weapons... Except the goddamn shield. Grrr. I can manage about 5 smites...

dont feel no pain · Oct 21, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

basically yeah you need knights insignia's + and -2 (stance) sheild + suprior absorbtion. and a +7 weapon for gathering.

T1Cybernetic · Oct 21, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

basically yeah you need knights insignia's + and -2 (stance) sheild + suprior absorbtion. and a +7 weapon for gathering.

I found out the hard way too, thinking i was all that etc

Im using the sword version and it's working fine, thanks.

Dragonforce = win

angmar_nite · Oct 21, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Yay got my first ecto ever!

dont feel no pain · Oct 21, 2007, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

Yay got my first ecto ever!

Gratz

dont feel no pain · Oct 21, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

I found out the hard way too, thinking i was all that etc

Im using the sword version and it's working fine, thanks.

Dragonforce = win

yeah sword is easiest =] hehe yeah dragonforce ftw

angmar_nite · Oct 21, 2007, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Hey, I saw you switching your armor half way through. What was that about?

dont feel no pain · Oct 21, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

Hey, I saw you switching your armor half way through. What was that about?

I accidenty had the wrong armor on.... and i did it wrong even after i changed it haha

so yeah i was doing less dmg than i should have.

Mindcrime · Oct 22, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41

I just wanted to drop by and say that your build (dont feel no pain) works top notch. I were able to farm up to 54 ectos in 7 days, farming 2 hours per day. Thanks!

Arkantos · Oct 22, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

The axe build is great, really fast. I'm happy that my new -2/-2 shield has a use.

dont feel no pain · Oct 22, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

glad to hear some nice comments ^^ gg on the cto farm mindcrime ^^, and yeah -2/-2 ftw!

Dark Tykane · Oct 23, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

glad to hear some nice comments ^^ gg on the cto farm mindcrime ^^, and yeah -2/-2 ftw!

I know this is not the price check forum but is it worth buying a -2/-2 shield for the build? Is the price so insane that it won't pay for itself eventually?

blackknight1337 · Oct 23, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

imo its not worth the extra dough, it adds a bit more safety to the build as the smites will only hit you for 1 with criticals instead of 3. I'd point out though that I can easily take 20 smites with just -2 stance and kill them all off (though its rare to be able to get that many in one group). I've never died due to the fact that i didn't have a -2/-2 rather than a -2/45.

Graspings I don't really see the use being worth the plats as they will still do damage to you unless you use PR. The only problem i've run into with them is their insane rate of interruptions through bonettis, and the different mod isn't gonna make a difference.

In the end its up to you, whether or not its worth the 60-100k or so (just a guess here) for the extra bit. Keep in mind though higher req means you'll have that much less in weapon attribute, I run 15/9 while don't feel no pain runs 14/10 i believe, but the more you go down the less damage you do, and the longer the run can take. In the end if you have the shield great, if not i don't see it "paying" for itself.

Oh, and this is for the axe build, for sword it is entirely not worth it. If you die vs one group of smites with sword then you have issues. No way 3-5 smites should be killing you with -3s before you can kill them.

Anyway hope that helped you a bit.

dont feel no pain · Oct 23, 2007, 07:29 AM // 07:29

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Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

I know this is not the price check forum but is it worth buying a -2/-2 shield for the build? Is the price so insane that it won't pay for itself eventually?

welll.... they're realy usual for other builds, but you would be paying something like 40-60k for a req 10/11 crap skin (strengh) but its not realy required, I often do runs with my 5k victo bulwak

yeah i run 14/10 because my sheild is req 10 XD or sometimes 15/9 when i use victo bulwak.