Curse

anonymous · Nov 07, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Thanks for getting the guide back up quickly, it went down just as I decided to go for it =P

jhu · Nov 07, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35

makes a fairly decent hard mode farming build almost anywhere. i've used this to mass murder kournans (although technically they all committed suicide) to get a fiery gladius. so far no luck with a max inscribable fiery gladius drop...

Vulkanyaz · Nov 08, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by anonymous

Thanks for getting the guide back up quickly, it went down just as I decided to go for it =P

haha same here.
I regret not following it for my dervish, my main char

Ugoff The Unholy · Nov 09, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25

Thanks for getting the thread back up!

I practically bought proph just for the skills needed. :P

Question: Is it worth it if you don't have HM? Also, I'm not level 20 yet... should I risk the attempt?

fujin · Nov 09, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by Ugoff The Unholy

Thanks for getting the thread back up!

I practically bought proph just for the skills needed. :P

Question: Is it worth it if you don't have HM? Also, I'm not level 20 yet... should I risk the attempt?

You need to be level 20 in the first place to access Hard Mode. You also need to have the game (Factions) completed at least once on any of your characters on your account.

It's well worth the risk. In fact, it's not even close to "risk", because of all the extra Health and Enchantments. Doing everything in Hard Mode after reaching level 20 is the way to go, it's much faster than in Normal Mode.

Ugoff The Unholy · Nov 09, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Thanks for the response.

I meant is it worth the risk for ME, a level 15 monk, to farm it in normal mode to GET to level 20. I plan to farm in NF hard mode/beat Factions while on my way to getting LS. Oh, and maybe a little FFF...

auch · Nov 09, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23

i did get my legendary survivor on a proph char in 3 days. its not that hard just be carefull
im guessing u want proof:

Press to see image of max survivor in 3 days

Ugoff The Unholy · Nov 09, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

That's like... around 13 hours a day. WOW.

Well, reached the farming spot... went from level 14 to level 16.5 in a short amount of time.

Made a VERY rookie mistake that almost killed me. I walked away to aggro the second 3 knights with about 3/4's hp, went out of symbiosis' range and dropped to 12 HP! How about that for cutting it close?

And any tips for aggroing both groups at once? The second group always seems JUST out of sym's range, and I don't want to be attacked while not under its effect. Plus, sometimes a knight will run paste and hack my spirit. That was another close call... Level 15, 6 lvl 20's surrounding you, and no symbiosis...

Ron Ng · Nov 10, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Cast Prot Spirit and Bond then go to the left and come back around to the left. recast bond during that if need. If you computer is laggy...don't do this

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Originally Posted by Ugoff The Unholy

That's like... around 13 hours a day. WOW.

Well, reached the farming spot... went from level 14 to level 16.5 in a short amount of time.

Made a VERY rookie mistake that almost killed me. I walked away to aggro the second 3 knights with about 3/4's hp, went out of symbiosis' range and dropped to 12 HP! How about that for cutting it close?

And any tips for aggroing both groups at once? The second group always seems JUST out of sym's range, and I don't want to be attacked while not under its effect. Plus, sometimes a knight will run paste and hack my spirit. That was another close call... Level 15, 6 lvl 20's surrounding you, and no symbiosis...

Ugoff The Unholy · Nov 10, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Bah, died... level 18 almost. Oh well. Only bad thing is he started in NF, so he had probably 2-3x as much time put into him as a Canthan native.

*shrug* Time to restart with an Ele. I didn't like monks, anyway.. Too hectic to play pve with for me.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, it's effective and ALMOST foolproof. I say almost because I died when Symbiosis went out, didn't notice it blinking. >_<

auch · Nov 10, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugoff The Unholy

That's like... around 13 hours a day. WOW.

Well, reached the farming spot... went from level 14 to level 16.5 in a short amount of time.

Made a VERY rookie mistake that almost killed me. I walked away to aggro the second 3 knights with about 3/4's hp, went out of symbiosis' range and dropped to 12 HP! How about that for cutting it close?

And any tips for aggroing both groups at once? The second group always seems JUST out of sym's range, and I don't want to be attacked while not under its effect. Plus, sometimes a knight will run paste and hack my spirit. That was another close call... Level 15, 6 lvl 20's surrounding you, and no symbiosis...

13 hours a day wasnt all lvling i was afk too and also trading

anonymous · Nov 12, 2007, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Thanks for the guide, got the title my first try =)

Viruzzz · Nov 12, 2007, 06:15 AM // 06:15

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Originally Posted by anonymous

Thanks for the guide, got the title my first try =)

love the 1exp point left to level :P

Antithesis · Nov 12, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by anonymous

Thanks for the guide, got the title my first try =)

No wukkers

I've been trying to figure out a decent R/Mo bar and ended up just going with Monk Smiting skills because Ranger ones looked like turd in comparision.

I considered the Serpent's Quickness + Whirling Defense option, but didn't see the point of the extra blocking when most of your damage comes from the smite bonds and healing comes from Spirit Bond - both rely on you actually getting hit.

How effective is WD at applying additional damage to the Jade Knights?

anonymous · Nov 13, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14

I actually brought whirling incase I messed up, it saved me a couple times in the beginning when I was new to the run, sometimes I would hit SB before it was over and would be taking hits with no SB. I kept it just incase, better safe than sorry.

Serpent's was for when I occasionally agro'd both groups at once, sometimes they would get 10 hits before the recharge of SB. It only happened for 4-5 seconds before 2-3 broke off and stood there doing nothing, but I wasn't running symbiosis, so I felt safer having the faster recharge, around 1 second.

Zojun's was just to get back to the gate faster, it was a run skill I already had unlocked and didn't feel like getting a better one.

I didn't really feel the need to bring extra damage skills, the smites killed them in 3 casts of SB so I went with extra defense in case I messed up really bad.

Miffels · Nov 14, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44

I figured out a quite easy way to kill the ritualists being R/Mo (I always do the hard run because it's a bit more interesting not to kill only those 6 knights...).

Ranger / Monk - some additional information

[skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill][skill]Rapid Fire[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Spirit Bond[/skill][skill]"Finish Him!"[/skill][skill]Life Attunement[/skill][skill]Vital Blessing[/skill][skill]Essence Bond[/skill]
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Description of the "unknown" skills:
Rapid Fire
"Finish Him!"

Attributes

Protection Prayers 12
Marksmanship 12
Expertise 3+1+3

Equipment

You should use a short bow! It worked quite fine for me with Ryver's Shortbow.
- a bow (and a staff for some +energy when not fighting a ritu if you want)
- some low defense armor
- attunement runes
- radiant insignia

Tactics to get rid of those ritus

This should be used with a Healer, Smiter and R/N BiP hero.
First, kill all the jade brotherhood guys as usual.
Then daze the ritualist with the elite skill and use rapid fire. In that way, the bow's attack speed is decreased to 1 second but the ritualists cast times increased to 2-4 seconds, so it's quite easy to interrupt the ritualist's healing attempts just by shooting. If you are doing this when the ritu is the last enemy standing, you don't even need to recast spirit bond/protective spirit; the regeneration of the enchantments should be enough to heal you.
Recast rapid fire when you just interrupted the ritu's heal spell, then shoot once or twice to interrupt his next attempt and use broad head arrow again. "Finish him!" can be replaced by any other skill, it's just used for killing the ritu a little bit faster and not necessary at all. I hope this is idiot proof.

Note: You shouldn't pull more than one ritualist / I doubt that the monk boss can be killed in that way. They've got too much healing power.

You can replace the R/Mo build in your farming guide here by mine if you want, Antithesis (SoJ is quite useless because the knockdown makes the ritu take less dmg from the smiting bonds). I'd recommend to do so. It's even faster not to use SoJ for the easy run.

calynda danyciar · Nov 14, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

great guide, but are you wearing max armor(60AL) for Hardmode run(the long one for me/mo or mo/me)? or is it best to wear starter armor? (5AL)
Thanks alot

Edit: nevermind figured it was with low armor.
And! agrhh i died at 790k exp

Miffels · Nov 14, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

I think it is mentioned somewhere in his guide. The lower your armor level is, the more dmg will you get and the more dmg will you deal to the enemies due to the smiting bonds.

edit: Btw, my monk died at 260k and my ranger at 750k.... but i can't remember when this should have happened -.-
I realized that my monk's title had gone when he's already had 360k... *sigh*

Madeentje · Nov 18, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00

YAY, My mesmer is just out Pre-Searing. I'm quite a stubborn and I wanted to do all the quests before I left Pre-Searing, and get a Belt Pouch. Now my mesmer is lvl 7.5, after doing all the quests. I also bought 30 armor. Now I'll try to find a runner to LA, but a guildie will help me I hope

.

EDIT: OK! Now I've got the heroes from Elona and I'm in The Marketplace, but I'm only lvl 7. How should I train to lvl 20 without risks?

Vulkanyaz · Nov 19, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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Originally Posted by dimitjeeuuhh

How should I train to lvl 20 without risks?

Ive added 2 more heroes all with a bunch of random enchants to maintain to boost my hp while levelling from 8 to 20.