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feelthafire · May 11, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44

jade swords dont drop in chests where assasins spawn... i got a few of them from chests near onis and sskai...

Memphis Rain · May 11, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

I play on Euro servers (hard to say no to almost constant favor) and I'm pretty sure the drop rate differs depends on the time of the day. During the day for me (early evening in Euro) I get at most 1-2 gold drops per run not counting chests, but if I wait until night time to do this run the gold drop rate goes up significantly. Since Anet got rid of the anti-farming flag (or so they claim) I guess maybe there is another global "anti-farming" code in effect, something along the lines of "No more than xxx amount of gold/green items can drop in an explorable area within each hour/minute". That would definitely explain the higher gold drop rate when most of Euro are sleeping.

EDIT:
Forgot to mention that I live in the USA so when I farm these "well-known" spots I tend to avoid doing it during the time when lots of people are playing on the Euro servers, in hope that the item drop rate would go up for me.

sumasage · May 11, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

anyone doing this with N/Mo SS build that can help me out? i'm keep on getting kill

feelthafire · May 11, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memphis Rain

I play on Euro servers (hard to say no to almost constant favor) and I'm pretty sure the drop rate differs depends on the time of the day. During the day for me (early evening in Euro) I get at most 1-2 gold drops per run not counting chests, but if I wait until night time to do this run the gold drop rate goes up significantly. Since Anet got rid of the anti-farming flag (or so they claim) I guess maybe there is another global "anti-farming" code in effect, something along the lines of "No more than xxx amount of gold/green items can drop in an explorable area within each hour/minute". That would definitely explain the higher gold drop rate when most of Euro are sleeping.

could i solve that problem by playing on american server though im euro?

Memphis Rain · May 11, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by feelthafire

could i solve that problem by playing on american server though im euro?

I'm merely assuming such anti-farming code exists in the system, but if my assumption turns out to be correct then which server you play on isn't as important as what time of the day you farm, just pick a time when most of the people in the region are sleeping or at work and see if your drop rate increases.
I live in USA, so when I'm on during the day it's probably the busiest time on Euro server since it's late afternoon/early evening there, that's when the green/gold item drop rate goes to hell for me; but around 9-10pm here it's early morning in Euro when most people are sleeping, thus not as much farming is going on in Euro region, that's when item drop rate seems to go up for me. So if you live in Europe but play on American servers, I'd suggest maybe try to farm around 9-10AM when it's about 4AM in America, and see if drop rate would go up for you.

Hott Bill · May 12, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

thank you so much for this build. also i substituted aftershock for shockwave.

phrozenglow · May 13, 2007, 05:04 PM // 17:04

this question was asked b4 but was never given a direct answer... is it possible to do this farm without the quest? i take it no but my monk, necro, and warr have all done this quest... my ele isnt far enought in nightfall to get stone striker... and it takes me to long to get out there... any solutions?

ichigo_panty · May 14, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14

Without the quest, monk,nerco,memser,ele will spawn there.

Additional Info:
Seems like the drops is decreasing.
All time according to +8GMT
3pm+ -> Average 2-3 golds each run
8pm+ -> Average 0-1 golds each run

The boss seems to be dropping scrolls to FoW more.

No good skins weapons for 3 days straight. Bots are running this area too now. ~10+ bots all the time

Sir Wolf Bane · May 14, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Does anyone know of a Necro build that works? my build seems useless.

onerabbit · May 14, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by ichigo_panty

Bots are running this area too now. ~10+ bots all the time

Bots were always in this area .. thats how i found it out, seen tonnes of monks and ele running out, so i did research.

Memphis Rain · May 14, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by phrozenglow

this question was asked b4 but was never given a direct answer... is it possible to do this farm without the quest? i take it no but my monk, necro, and warr have all done this quest... my ele isnt far enought in nightfall to get stone striker... and it takes me to long to get out there... any solutions?

Ok what you can do is if you have ANY character capable of travelling to Gate of Torment, have that character switch its second profession to Elementalist and buy (unlock) the skill, once that's done you can either purchase that skill with your Elementalist at Kamadan or use an normal Elementalist Tome to get it.

EDIT:
I use a different Elementalist solo build, skills 1-4 are Arcane Echo, Sliver Armor, Shockwave, Crystal Wave. 5-8 are still the same, with maxed out Earth and Energy Storage, using this build I can finish in 5 minutes average. The VWK Rt build is also fast here, average about 5 minutes per run also.

Levi Garett · May 14, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

I've done multiple runs here killing the assassins one at a time and my drops have went up dramatically. On average I'd say I get 20/26 drops in HM when killing one at a time versus using SS and getting maybe ~10/26 drops.

I decided to try this after doing some testing with EoE (in a different spot) and noticing my drops decline to almost nothing. With EoE I was getting maybe 3/25 drops, and once I took EoE out I was getting 20/25 drops. So I took this theory to this farm spot and had the same results.

Oh and when I say "drops" I mean coins, white items, purples, blues, etc (basically anything not included in the "loot scaling"). Also I'm getting 1-3 gold drops per run now.

onerabbit · May 14, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

So, lure them all up and Sliver Armor? .. or Spoil Victor.

beren kat jollie · May 14, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

im doing with my n/mo 55 SV with no problem.

and nice farm onerabbit :d

Destinyy · May 15, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

I am ABSOLUTELY chomping at the bit to get home and try this farm run out on my 55 nec... VERY UBER COOL!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi Garett

I've done multiple runs here killing the assassins one at a time and my drops have went up dramatically. On average I'd say I get 20/26 drops in HM when killing one at a time versus using SS and getting maybe ~10/26 drops.

I decided to try this after doing some testing with EoE (in a different spot) and noticing my drops decline to almost nothing. With EoE I was getting maybe 3/25 drops, and once I took EoE out I was getting 20/25 drops. So I took this theory to this farm spot and had the same results.

Oh and when I say "drops" I mean coins, white items, purples, blues, etc (basically anything not included in the "loot scaling"). Also I'm getting 1-3 gold drops per run now.

This is interesting, because a guildie of mine had the same observation... I think i will run the SV build... I must aslo point him to this thread to read what you are saying...

naginatools · May 15, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Assassin/Elementalist works fine for them who has Assassin in area.

Glyph Of Elemental Power
Meteor Shower
Bed Of Coals
Lava Font
Flame Djinn's Haste
Shadow Form
Dark Escape
Fire Attunement

Nothing new, but works fine against those sins.

Keithark · May 15, 2007, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I wanted to try other builds besides the ones on here because i have no monk and just thought if they are sins then I should be able to use my physical resistance build on my warrior, mist form on elly, 55 ss build but I tried all and none worked...so my question is what skills are those sins using? I had like 30 min at lunch to get the quest and try this on 3 different characters so I have not really got into it but just curious what they are using that goes thru mist form for example..it says i cannot take damage from attacks so why do I die? (and no they were not removing it)

edit: they outdamaged my 55 with prot spirit, mending, and HB but i didn't notice if they removed anything because they killed me so fast I didn't have time to see if they had

Edit #2 : just got home and found out, it is touch skills (iron Palm) so my question remains..how can you 55 them when they do 5-41 damage each time and there are 4 of them? And for that matter how can you beat them with anything but a monk because HP at 500 on my elly for example it takes 4 of them about 3 times using the skill to kill me

Destinyy · May 15, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

O M G!!!!!

Can you believe THIS happened???

But........

Did you know you can pick things up, even if they one floor above you, sa long as you are right next to it!!! hehehehe... SO HAPPY I AM!!!!

HEHEHE.. Again, awesome spot!!!

Bruce Leeroy · May 15, 2007, 11:22 PM // 23:22

to the 55 Necs bar questions.

I'm sure someone posted a build, but I am using:

[Protective Spirit][Shielding Hands][Shield of Absorption][Spiteful Spirit][Insidious Parasite][Defile/Dessecrate Enchantments][Balths Spirit][Essence Bond]

Defile is not necessary and can be substituted with another skill of your choice.

ArKaiN · May 16, 2007, 02:19 AM // 02:19

essence is not necessary either, foes hit fast in HM. I'd put in both defile and desacrate.