Curse

Crippie its Tom · Nov 03, 2009, 02:31 AM // 02:31

welcome 600/smiteway through the door plz =D

Spiritz · Nov 03, 2009, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by Dagz From Mittens

i dont really like the nerf in uw, but without SF id have really no good ways to make money

Oh please dont use that excuse - its so lame no offence.
How did ppl before sf was buffed make money i wonder ?
How did/do ppl with only prophs and nf make money ?

Being dependant on just SF is like when ursan was pre nerf - was the only skill ppl used and when nerfed they had to play the game and farm like the rest of us.

Big Suggestion here for all those like that poster who rely only on SF - have a look thru the farming section here on guru and look at all the different farms there are.

Uw gets changed or skills nerfed and what happens - the real players adapt and evolve new ways to farm it.Its how players do things in gw and we get on with it.

Ps soz to come off topic slightly but that comment almost made me cry - with laughter.
On topic - id love to see changes in uw and im sure many others would as it would add to the challenge and maybe bring some old players back.
Also it would give uwsc teams a fresh start at trying to set new builds and records - it keeps ppl busy at the end of the day

Sly Mutha · Nov 04, 2009, 03:01 AM // 03:01

take it from this traditionalist 600 monk...

UWSC nerf = ah ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

Read the May 2009 update where A-Net warned you that UWSC was pushing the line.

Good bye crappy exploit, hello a UW that's more fun for all of us real farmers.

g2g...ecto is dropping and going up, up, up!!! Ha ha!

sthpaw · Nov 04, 2009, 04:58 AM // 04:58

hold on!
is it even possible to do a UWSC run at all?
people are saying it is but have no other input besides the common "pugs fail if your in a good team/guild you can do it but takes longer etc etc"
any comments from any of those good SC guilds about these changes?

Mr. Undisclosed · Nov 04, 2009, 05:16 AM // 05:16

I don't like how in the process of nerfing UWSC they made it like twice as hard for balanced, yet people still somehow manage to do it. When will they learn its not UW that needs a change, its SF.

JimmyNeutron · Nov 04, 2009, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

I don't like how in the process of nerfing UWSC they made it like twice as hard for balanced, yet people still somehow manage to do it. When will they learn its not UW that needs a change, its SF.

Listen to their interview on youtube. The lady who's speaking stops short of saying we don't want to nerf SF to scare off customers like they did for Ursan.

ANET realize if SF ends, they will lose a lot of players like they did when Ursan got nerf. Remember, all ANET cares about is getting the most amount of people to play the game.

It's very likely all nerf to SF will come in the form of a buff to the enemies or new enemies added. Who's to say that the Skeleton should roam the UW only????

sthpaw · Nov 04, 2009, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron

Listen to their interview on youtube. The lady who's speaking stops short of saying we don't want to nerf SF to scare off customers like they did for Ursan.

ANET realize if SF ends, they will lose a lot of players like they did when Ursan got nerf. Remember, all ANET cares about is getting the most amount of people to play the game.

It's very likely all nerf to SF will come in the form of a buff to the enemies or new enemies added. Who's to say that the Skeleton should roam the UW only????

that just makes it harder for every1 to complete UW. wastes is the biggest pain to go as a balanced team as i learnt last night, but i guess with more practice and tactics should be fine but thats not the point SF is still there UW is not the only thing that SF can do better then a regular balanced team.
well now every1 that did UWSC has now turned to FoWSC.

Ferminator · Nov 04, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44

I'm glad they decided to nerf the uw itself rather than take the easy way and destroy shadow form. However I still think how they went about it is........ questionable.

P_A_A · Nov 04, 2009, 07:21 AM // 07:21

Uw isnt nerfed at all - they've already managed it. My bet for new sc would be with at least 1 perma ase, a spirit spammer and a 600/smite. Dunno about others ^_^

Tenebrae · Nov 04, 2009, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron

Listen to their interview on youtube. The lady who's speaking stops short of saying we don't want to nerf SF to scare off customers like they did for Ursan.

ANET realize if SF ends, they will lose a lot of players like they did when Ursan got nerf. Remember, all ANET cares about is getting the most amount of people to play the game.

Thats the same BS some ppl said with UB nerf and no , it didnt happen. There will be a lot of QQ bla bla , trolling and ppl will move on . Some to the next overpowered farming tactic and others to another stuff , thats it.

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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron

It's very likely all nerf to SF will come in the form of a buff to the enemies or new enemies added. Who's to say that the Skeleton should roam the UW only????

SF is a broken skill and anything besides a total rework ( dont like nerfs like Smith boon pvp ) its BS and anyone who has a brain and plays GW knows it . Something has to be done to that skill not to the UW.
Nerf the Runner , not the place itself.

Chocobo1 · Nov 04, 2009, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron

Listen to their interview on youtube. The lady who's speaking stops short of saying we don't want to nerf SF to scare off customers like they did for Ursan.

ANET realize if SF ends, they will lose a lot of players like they did when Ursan got nerf. Remember, all ANET cares about is getting the most amount of people to play the game.

It's very likely all nerf to SF will come in the form of a buff to the enemies or new enemies added. Who's to say that the Skeleton should roam the UW only????

-_- No one actually quit the game because Ursan was nerfed, they just cried and claimed the game was impossible without it.

Elephantaliste · Nov 04, 2009, 01:38 PM // 13:38

they are so timorous about loosing players with SF fix that they don't see they gonna loose more players in long term because they fail at their promice of trying to balance skills.

Tom Swift · Nov 04, 2009, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae

SF is a broken skill and anything besides a total rework ( dont like nerfs like Smith boon pvp ) its BS and anyone who has a brain and plays GW knows it .

I agree it's a broken skill. (though I do use it occasionally in the UW if I need some quick cash. In fact, with the addition of the skeletons there is enough challenge to make it interesting for a day or two until I figure out how to take out the planes again) I also agree it needs a change.

But I don't think Anet is willing to admit it. ANet has demonstrated again and again that it is their intention to keep SF maintainable.

It has been possible to keep it up 100% ever since nightfall came out, though at first only A/Me could do so. And, by the way, I don't think it was really overpowered until EoTN came out with the ability to add the huge damage dealing elemental and PvE skills. The old A/Me build forced you to relay on dagger skills which limited what you could do while maintaining SF.

That has been 3 years now. They have nerfed it several times without removing the ability to maintain it. They said they were going to look at it before the end of the year and in the addition of skeletons to the UW they have shown us how they decided to deal with it - by reworking the UW instead of the skill.

After that much time I think we might as well face the fact that ANet wants SF to be 100% maintainable.

I don't really like it but it's what we have to live with.

JimmyNeutron · Nov 04, 2009, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

-_- No one actually quit the game because Ursan was nerfed, they just cried and claimed the game was impossible without it.

No one knows except for ANET. I highly doubt ANET isn't monitoring the # of active users during X hr of the day and compare that to last week on the same day and hour, a year ago, etc...

But, I'm pretty positives the decline of active players drop over the next month after the Ursan nerf.

Look at DoA and Olafstead....not as full as it used to be anymore.

I remember seeing 2-3 districts in DoA on weekends. Now, I almost always zone into Dist 1 unless there's a Z mission there.

Tenebrae · Nov 04, 2009, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron

No one knows except for ANET. I highly doubt ANET isn't monitoring the # of active users during X hr of the day and compare that to last week on the same day and hour, a year ago, etc...

But, I'm pretty positives the decline of active players drop over the next month after the Ursan nerf.

Look at DoA and Olafstead....not as full as it used to be anymore.

I remember seeing 2-3 districts in DoA on weekends. Now, I almost always zone into Dist 1 unless there's a Z mission there.

You speak of "ANET" like you know what they know and what are they going to do and when someone does the same you doubt he/she knows. Monitoring doesnt matter , numbers of players in DoA or Olafstead =\= active players.

The thing is that real active players wont leave if they nerf SF and thats a fact , the ppl who would are not "real" active players imho and if they leave we are better off without em.

What you seem to forget is that UW number of real players ( non SC farmers ) will be the same if they nerf SF and will fall down dramaticaly if you keep "nerfing" UW and making it more diff. If you do so , you piss off ALL UW PLAYERS , not only SC'ers or SF users. This stupid race of UW vs SC'ers must end and if they make UW harder .... they will be making a big big mistake , much more bigger than nerfing SF .That is pretty obvious and im pretty sure they know it ( even if you say once again "No one really knows except ANET" bla bla ).

Mr. Undisclosed · Nov 04, 2009, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron

Listen to their interview on youtube. The lady who's speaking stops short of saying we don't want to nerf SF to scare off customers like they did for Ursan.

ANET realize if SF ends, they will lose a lot of players like they did when Ursan got nerf. Remember, all ANET cares about is getting the most amount of people to play the game.

It's very likely all nerf to SF will come in the form of a buff to the enemies or new enemies added. Who's to say that the Skeleton should roam the UW only????

Honestly I didn't remember a lot of people leaving because of the ursan nerf, I remember a lot of people making threats that they would but never did. Maybe they did and I just never heard about it because I dont hang out with that type of crowd.

Strife17 · Nov 04, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

UWSC is not completly nerfed, its just a bit more difficult.

which makes all the noob players QQ, because there is some obstacle they can't handle.

and since UWSC is a team effort, most likely pugs will fail. (even more than before)

Fay Vert · Nov 04, 2009, 10:10 PM // 22:10

SF is easily the most broken thing in GW, if they are scared to address that then they are more stupid than I can possibly comprehend.

If they want to turn players off of GW2 then they are going the right way about it.

CE Devilman · Nov 05, 2009, 12:46 AM // 00:46

I love the update.....

cupcake and a new skill...and my "drunk rit run" is up to date (youtube)

mczo · Nov 05, 2009, 02:14 PM // 14:14

is there a solution for the duum skeleton? because i want to make uwsc in team but we have no solution about skeleton of dhuum