Curse

fujin · Oct 17, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Yeah I thought about testing on those Berserking Minotaurs, but I just realized that Symbiosis is seriously on Steroids in Hard Mode, and you can't kill it, unless you use a staff or something. I wonder how much Health the Minotaurs get :/

calynda danyciar · Oct 17, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

great build

altough i have a question. whats the maximum number of aataxe's you can take at once in HM UW. because if i have 3 at once. they attack faster then 10 times within 2 sec (spirit bond) so they kill me before i can even recast it..

thanks

Trueslash Noobfoot · Oct 17, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Try not aggroing so many aatxes? I don't have this problem on my 600 monk.

Savor Silversword · Oct 17, 2007, 03:56 PM // 15:56

This build look´s good have to try it out!

fujin · Oct 17, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by Trueslash Noobfoot

Try not aggroing so many aatxes? I don't have this problem on my 600 monk.

Aatxes tend to come in groups of 3, only sometimes 2.

When I use it however, they don't attack that fast... Maybe, there might have been a pop up of a Dying Nightmare, with the skill Rend Enchantments... Without Prot Spirit and Spirit Bond, you die really fast, sometimes in one hit. To avoid this, you got to run behind the NPC Benton before the Aatxe even get to you. Then just use a Staff or Wand and kill it, they die really fast, hence the name, Dying Nightmare. After that's dead, DO NOT FORGET TO RECAST YOUR UPKEPT ENCHANTMENTS, and Prot Spirit. You might as well cast VwK before running out of the safe zone, just so it won't get interrupted

If you didn't get what I said by "hide behind the NPC Benton" I'll upload an image, so don't worry.

Zahr Dalsk · Oct 17, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by calynda danyciar

great build

altough i have a question. whats the maximum number of aataxe's you can take at once in HM UW. because if i have 3 at once. they attack faster then 10 times within 2 sec (spirit bond) so they kill me before i can even recast it..

thanks

It generally just takes getting used to.

They used to take me down very fast when I first went to the Underworld with this build... now that I have gotten the hang of it they only rarely kill me.

Gwmaster · Oct 17, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

btw ReZDoGG, you should add these to your farming list, i just tryed yesterday in HM: Djins Outside eye of the north, Frozen Elementals+boss Outside Eotn, Stone Wolves, Melee Charrs (about 20-25) in the quest Charr Invaders.

ReZDoGG · Oct 17, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by Gwmaster

btw ReZDoGG, you should add these to your farming list, i just tryed yesterday in HM: Djins Outside eye of the north, Frozen Elementals+boss Outside Eotn, Stone Wolves, Melee Charrs (about 20-25) in the quest Charr Invaders.

They are already on the list with an area map of locations for each group of enemies. I would make a video of whole Ice Cliff run, but its around a 20 minute run. If you want to take out the bosses, switch RoD for Pain Inverter... can take out the ranger and ele boss no problem.

I had thought about that quest, but I had already completed it

I wish there was a way to reactivate certain quest if u already completed them... I shouldn't of done any side quest until HM came out, to make sure I don't miss out on some extra farming places... but I think I completed a good deal of them with my Rit too...sux.

fujin · Oct 18, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Unfortunately, my Ritualist hasn't gone this far in the game yet, but the Primary Quest Assault on the Stronghold.... It spawns Charr in the beginning. Three of them, all melee!

Would anyone mind testing out?

Here's the quest, just don't attack the Rangers on top of the hill, stay near the Siege Devourer.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Assault_on_the_Stronghold

EDIT: Ok, just tested it out, it takes a while to take them out. If you aggro to many, it's not a good thing, it's like aggroing too many trolls in Talus Chute... They run away and use Healing Signet.

R E Z E R · Oct 20, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

Id just like to say, I think this build could solo many green farms, all Bosses that can be lured away from large mobs can be killed in HM imo. Xuekeko The Deceptive works. Faster than on my sin too >_<.

Btw I'd just like to add.. The build is awesome... It is a bit tricky ast first.. Lost 2k on UW entrances, but once you get the hang of it, its great. Keep up the good work!

k3mikal · Oct 21, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

i just got up from the floor
i was spasming all over after reading this

Alex the Great · Oct 21, 2007, 02:39 PM // 14:39

I use an E/rit with VwK, armour of earth, stoneflesh aura, earth atunment, glyph of swiftness, vengful weapon, aftershock, weilders boon

works fast, and i dont have a rit lol

Saberhagen94 · Oct 21, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Hey,
Cool build I have almost got it for my Rt (Sir Berliner), just need one more skill (VwK) and the Staff upgrades. Might have already been posted, but how much do the staff upgrades cost?

ReZDoGG · Oct 21, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Saberhagen94

Hey,
Cool build I have almost got it for my Rt (Sir Berliner), just need one more skill (VwK) and the Staff upgrades. Might have already been posted, but how much do the staff upgrades cost?

10% swift staff can cost around 2-3k, and +15 Seize the Day for around 5-8k, and 5k for 20% enchant.... but if you can't afford it, just get any green staff with +20 energy and 20% recharge. The Enchantment wrap isn't really needed, as you don't get them staff benefits when VwK is in use or while holding any items.

Squishy ftw · Oct 22, 2007, 06:27 AM // 06:27

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Originally Posted by Saberhagen94

Hey,
Cool build I have almost got it for my Rt (Sir Berliner), just need one more skill (VwK) and the Staff upgrades. Might have already been posted, but how much do the staff upgrades cost?

All upgrades will be around 10k total, but they're not that necesary, my rit is using a req2 channeling staff with 6 energy and 12% halve skill recharge

(some dumb item I found on factions noob island lol)

ChemX · Oct 23, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

10% swift staff can cost around 2-3k, and +15 Seize the Day for around 5-8k, and 5k for 20% enchant.... but if you can't afford it, just get any green staff with +20 energy and 20% recharge. The Enchantment wrap isn't really needed, as you don't get them staff benefits when VwK is in use or while holding any items.

which green do u use then ? or where could i get that staff?

im using +5energy/20% ench blade + 15/-1 offhand at the moment but im not satisfied with that cause i get quite low and die in some regions

fujin · Oct 23, 2007, 09:25 AM // 09:25

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Originally Posted by ChemX

which green do u use then ? or where could i get that staff?

im using +5energy/20% ench blade + 15/-1 offhand at the moment but im not satisfied with that cause i get quite low and die in some regions

Alem's Remedy works quite well, in fact, it's the only Restoration Staff, along with Staff of the Forgotten, and they have the exact same stats
I don't really see how you run out of Energy, but it could be because of the -1 Energy Regeneration, or you could possibly be spamming Protective Spirit too much. Only use it when it's around half way down (When fighting Bladed Aatxes in The Underworld), or just before it ends for anything else.

Another reason might be because the mobs are too small... You need more enemies hitting you to gain Energy. If the enemies are casters, the Energy Gain per second might be lower because they're casting spells that take a while.

TheDolph · Oct 24, 2007, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Can anyone tell me how dual 20% HSR stacks? 1x.2x.2 or 1x.4? Was debating using wand with 20HSR +5e while enchanted+end game focus with 12e and 20HSR or my 20e staff with 20HSR and 20%enchantment.

Btw, you can farm Pongmei Valley out of Maatu Keep for most enemies except dual brotherhood mesmers I guess, and also Behemoths in the mirror of lyss could be added.
And does anyone know if I need to complete NF to get into the hidden city?

fujin · Oct 24, 2007, 11:54 AM // 11:54

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Originally Posted by TheDolph

Can anyone tell me how dual 20% HSR stacks? 1x.2x.2 or 1x.4? Was debating using wand with 20HSR +5e while enchanted+end game focus with 12e and 20HSR or my 20e staff with 20HSR and 20%enchantment.

Btw, you can farm Pongmei Valley out of Maatu Keep for most enemies except dual brotherhood mesmers I guess, and also Behemoths in the mirror of lyss could be added.
And does anyone know if I need to complete NF to get into the hidden city?

I think the dual HSR is 4%... You get 20%HSR once, and you have another 20% of the original 20%, which is 4%, for it to trigger again.

To get to Hidden City, you have to have the quest Calling the Order completed (That's if you picked Master of Whispers, and I'm assuming you chose him), then you can just goto the Mirror of Lyss and travel to the rock wall.

Skinny Corpse · Oct 25, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

I've finally got the hang of this and it works like a charm.
Well.. I occasionally still die but hey I'm getting there!

Great fun, great build.. thank you!