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ninjablaze2k9 · Dec 01, 2011, 03:18 AM // 03:18

ok so heres the deal iv got this build but i cant seem to get it working for crap
every time i try i die with in the first min or less lol

my sources for the build are here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=HRGl32hxzFc

and allso http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t10430182.html

so like iv been trying desperately in topk dieing super fast i dunno maybe im not doing somthing right can someone please help me get this down id be more then happy to add them in game as well if need be
again ty all for anyfeed back its so greatly appreciated

Essence Snow · Dec 01, 2011, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Couple things....

1) the build in the vid was R/A, while you'll be able to stay alive then same the dmg surely won't stay the same do to loss in expertise.

2) check the dates of the links...that build was for farming topk lvl 1 for ectos, which has been nerfed to hinder bot farming....ie...foes on lvl 1 of topk no longer drop ectos. So, in turn there is no reason to farm there for them

3) we would need more information about your equipment and your exact build (attribute split etc...) to make valid suggestions

ninjablaze2k9 · Dec 01, 2011, 07:22 AM // 07:22

wouldn't this build work other places though such as dragon moss ect ect

here are some vids all are short that i was watching that helped me decide to do this
allso is a link that showed me this ranger farm in the first place i really wanna learn to farm all crazy like this with whirling def on a A/R
the equip i have is ssyns staf +10 energy +30 +30 Health full raident Insignia
shroud of distress, deadly paradox,shadowform, whirling defense,deaths charge,shadow sanctuary, Winnowing,Feigned Neutrality
11 shadow arts 11 expertise 3 wilderness survive 4 deadly arts

i understand topk dose not drop ecto on first floor i was just trying it there to see
if i could get the build working , i dont mind trying the build or builds in dif locations
i just cant seem to get this build working at all

i am allso assuming even though im not trying it that it is possible on A / R as well

from what iv read this build can drop massive groups of foes this would really help me out

once again ty for any and all help every one

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t10430182.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR7NEzJgAS4&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93EKt...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmKVZ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6otKaJxK9HM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVhqmSCgxo

Shenro · Dec 01, 2011, 11:01 AM // 11:01

Welll here's a Link to A/R Celestial Farm-Pretty much Same concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFt4m...el_video_title

Note: 11 Shadow arts? Your going to want 16. (or 12 with +1Headpeice +3Sup shadow arts rune)

If you want Help ect-Wisp me: Cerberal Assassin

Glem The Sadewind · Dec 01, 2011, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Just look for A/R builds at first.

Usually it's also good to find vids that are from the year 2011 because some core farming skills have changed quite recently (BuH for example). Some few places are easier to do with A/R than R/A for sure (physical dmg areas cuz of assassin insignias) but mostly the higher expertise means that you can keep whirling up longer and do more dmg + have more block.

Spirits like EoE (Edge of Extinction) and Winnowing are nice skills for A/R once you manage to survive thru the run first.

Check list:
1. +20% enchantment staff or 20% enchantment sword/axe/spear with a shield (for more defence use the shield+martial wep version)
2. Correct armor insignias (check what dmg do the foes do)
3. Renew your assassin enchantments on you whenever you can if your energy lets you (this way you get nice additional dmg reduction)

1 more vid of Celestial farming as A/R: http://www.youtube.com/user/ablackbe.../9/B92g_WoLtaw

ninjablaze2k9 · Dec 02, 2011, 02:15 AM // 02:15

sorry but what do u mean by a martial wep version?

what about totem axe + a good shield???

any recommendation for a specific green or gold weapon + shield or staff ??? (example ssyns staff)

sorry im just trying to get every bit of info to learn these farms i can ty once again guys
its appreciated so very much

Showtime · Dec 02, 2011, 04:53 AM // 04:53

I farm with both. Dragon Moss, Snowman, etc.

I don't worry about hp, but have sup vig. If SF drops for a second too long it doesn't matter.

I run blessed armor with 2 superior runes for 16 and 15. +5e 20% enchants weapon and shield vs damage type -2 enchant. I got the -2e shield cuz I was told to get it. I don't really understand how the -2 helps since it isn't physical damage, but I have the same shield in -2 stance and the enchanted one seems to take less damage. All that and that dwarven stance skill makes it easy to maintain SF. It's also used for WD to last longer since it does a lot less damage than rangers WD. Don't even need winnowing if done right, but always bring it for most farms. So get your deldrimor up to r6+. I got a lot my deld rank farming snowman during events.

On my Ranger, I have to be more careful, but can run whatever runes with high expertise and SArts. WD does a lot more damage so killing is easy and I have 1 or 2 skill slots I can mess around with depending on the farm.

Lmk if you are still having problems. I can show build and do a run or 2 with you.

IGN Guild Death

The Drunkard · Dec 02, 2011, 05:18 AM // 05:18

A couple of things:

- Rangers have an inherent +30 health against elemental damage, which makes it easier for them to tank through the autoattacks of casters.

- Armor choice is VERY important for a A/R. You need to be running blessed for caster heavy areas, or sin insignas for physical areas.

-ALWAYS sit on shield/martial weapon as a sin, until you get the hang of the areas. The shield should have a health bonus while enchanted, and an armor bonus for a specific type of damage. In the celestial farm I believe you want a piercing shield. As for the spear, an enchanting mod is a must-have, but you can switch up the other mods.

- Make sure you maintain your enchantmens, otherwise you won't get the damage reduction from SF.

ectospasm · Dec 04, 2011, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Most all builds you find are pretty much useless. TOPK is dead. I wouldnt waste your time trying to farm or youll end up like I did years ago and just get so mad you quit playing because theres nothing enjoyable to do when you finish everything but cant farm. the joy comes in reward for accomplishing something intense like 55 farming uw solo or taking on as many enemies as you can without dying with a vwk rit, but everything has been nerfed to hell so bad since 06' its annoying for casual farmers to do anything. steps could have been put in place years ago to hinder bots and gold sell farmers that didnt discourage casual farming. i tried vaettir farming when i came back and the builds are cheesy and/or requires some sort of multiple title rep skills to use effectively. I failed serveral times, and the distance to run and mobs to go passed just to zone to the vaettir area was a waste of time and a turn off to me. If you want to farm ice imps and dont mind wasting tons of time for hardly any reward you can try OQMU0s4KzaOjvhSaxn4GFJyjRCA
its an alternate take on the old IDS build. I manged to live with 4-6 imps and a pinesoul on me. Trying to farm frigid hearts for the traveler. it will probably work some other places but I havent tried because it takes forever to kill stuff.