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Spiritz · Apr 28, 2012, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by ceka88

Did u read my post? i counted the destroyers at glint challenge last time 62 after 3min + 1min to kill(+1min to collect drops+rezone). So this is atleast #3.

Each one i listed is easy access and destroyer farming requires you to reach ctc and have done all primaries leading up to it.
Did you read the title - it does have the words easiest in it.
Raptors/vaetires and snowmen only require eotn on 1 chr which gives all chrs hm access there when at lvl 20 - destroyers again means you have a lot of work to do even if completed on a diff chr.

Greenough - i believe the troll farming got nerfed ages ago altho if its just event drops it may work just for that.

Ken34 · May 03, 2012, 08:17 AM // 08:17

anyone have a current ele build for raptor farming?

Fay Vert · May 03, 2012, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by lucaa_tlw

Me doing it a lot of time ago, its still exactly the same after the updates.. Its more like 50 secs and not 45.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm1jSdvvpAA

Actually more like 90 seconds because you haven't picked up drops, you haven't /resign, you haven't been defeated, you haven't clicked the return to outpost, you haven't zoned to outpost, you haven't turned around to walk out the door again and you haven't loaded the next zone again.

Sick of the bullcrap timings people quote on farm bragging threads.

snodaard · May 04, 2012, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Actually more like 90 seconds because you haven't picked up drops, you haven't /resign, you haven't been defeated, you haven't clicked the return to outpost, you haven't zoned to outpost, you haven't turned around to walk out the door again and you haven't loaded the next zone again.

Sick of the bullcrap timings people quote on farm bragging threads.

Those exact same things need to happen on any farm run. So to compare them I'd say it's enough to quote the 'in map' farm time.

fldash · May 04, 2012, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Can I use the W/N to farm Vaettirs as well? I'm currently doing Raptors in HM but wanted to try something else...

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:W/N_Raptor_Farmer

Premium Unleaded · May 04, 2012, 06:18 PM // 18:18

There was a list of vaet farms for every profession somewhere in this forum. The ones who can't solo uses a SB slave for spell immunity during balling.

Loki Seiguro · May 04, 2012, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by fldash

Can I use the W/N to farm Vaettirs as well? I'm currently doing Raptors in HM but wanted to try something else...

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:W/N_Raptor_Farmer

im going to have to say no. vaettirs are mesmers so they will degen you out.

fldash · May 04, 2012, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

im going to have to say no. vaettirs are mesmers so they will degen you out.

Thanks, I noticed that the Vaet farming build I found used Hundred Blades and Whirlwind too so I thought I'd ask... I think I just need to swap a few skills on my Paragon so I can bring Spell Breaker and Blessed Aura...

lucaa_tlw · May 04, 2012, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Actually more like 90 seconds because you haven't picked up drops, you haven't /resign, you haven't been defeated, you haven't clicked the return to outpost, you haven't zoned to outpost, you haven't turned around to walk out the door again and you haven't loaded the next zone again.

Sick of the bullcrap timings people quote on farm bragging threads.

Dude, to make my comparison of 2 different farms I took into account all the possible factors that may have a role in changing the times FROM THE ONE TO THE OTHER.
The picking up drops, resigning, zoning things apply for all the other farms, dont they?

I don't get your point.

Fay Vert · May 05, 2012, 01:34 PM // 13:34

You are conveniently missing the poijnt and you know damned well what it is. The point is, saying that a run takes 50 seconds people then claim stupid rates of farming. You are comparing different number of kills so approximately 2 runs needed raptors to equal the kills of a glacial farm. 2*50 sec is better than 1*120 sec is your argument, but add the REAL round trip time and you get a different result.

So, 2*90 sec comparied to 1* 160 sec gives you a different answer yes?

So stop being fake with the timings, people are interested more in how much they can get per hour rather than pretend rates generated from a single incomplete run.

snodaard · May 05, 2012, 02:15 PM // 14:15

why would it take you 40 seconds to pickup some drops and resign. Also if you make sure you spawn at the door so you can rejoin the map right away it shouldn't be close to 40 seconds >.< I'd say it's about 20 seconds.
this way it's 2*70 or 1*160

lucaa_tlw · May 05, 2012, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

You are conveniently missing the poijnt and you know damned well what it is. The point is, saying that a run takes 50 seconds people then claim stupid rates of farming. You are comparing different number of kills so approximately 2 runs needed raptors to equal the kills of a glacial farm. 2*50 sec is better than 1*120 sec is your argument, but add the REAL round trip time and you get a different result.

So, 2*90 sec comparied to 1* 160 sec gives you a different answer yes?

So stop being fake with the timings, people are interested more in how much they can get per hour rather than pretend rates generated from a single incomplete run.

I'm not conveniently missing anything.
Let's assume the picking up drops time of a raptors run is 40 seconds.
If in a vaettir run you have double the kills (which is actually not true, in 2 raptor runs you will have 62/66 kills, in a vaettir run 60), you should have approximately double the drop, shouldnt you?
Then it should take double the time to pick up that drop, unless the vaettir farmer is Flash, which I don't think is the case.
Then again following your argumentation you should add 80 seconds to vaettir time, and not 40, and guess what, 2*90 is less than 1*200

Additionally, as I stated in a previous post, if you dont have another account (that's my case) to help zoning in and out, in a vaettir run you should add 10/15 more seconds.

Fay Vert · May 05, 2012, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Way to miss a point

I don't know, and I don't care which is better, raptors or vaettir, it also kind of depends what characters you have in that area so for many they can only do one not the other.

My point is: stop making false claims based on partial runs

lucaa_tlw · May 06, 2012, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Way to miss a point

I don't know, and I don't care which is better, raptors or vaettir, it also kind of depends what characters you have in that area so for many they can only do one not the other.

My point is: stop making false claims based on partial runs

And my point is: if you "add the REAL round trip time you do not get a different result."
That's all, the fact that both farms are "partial" doesn't change anything, because both are "partial" in the exactly same way.
I'm not making misleading comparisons for the people looking at this thread.

Fay Vert · May 07, 2012, 01:14 PM // 13:14

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Originally Posted by snodaard

why would it take you 40 seconds to pickup some drops and resign.

So it may interest you to know that I just did the Vaettirs and it took 61 seconds to pick up all the items (using ; [spacebar]).

The timings that people conveniently don't count are a lot more significant that you realise. Try it yourself if you don't belive me. It's only if you record all the time that a run takes can you work out which run is better per hour.