Curse

Dante the Warlord · Aug 04, 2006, 12:12 PM // 12:12

I would just upgrade my armor to max and get three superior runes(one of each kind) and two minor runes(your choice). I wouldn't upgrade ur sword just yet...i made that big mistake when i was at ur point, ended up bankrupt with bad armor. try for a better sheild though, DEFINATELY an exalted aegis (green) req. 9 strength. They are cheap and very nice.

Rancour · Aug 04, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

Are you seriously suggesting getting 3 Superior attribute runes?

Gabe3 · Aug 04, 2006, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by Rancour

Your build looks ok, though I think Grenth's Balance is only for special occations. You might want to replace that with something else, perhaps an elite sword attack?
Sprint isn't a bad skill but you really won't need it in PvE unless you're running people. I suggest getting a more defensive skill instead, since that's what I'm most worried about.
Also, why the points in Curses, Death Magic and Blood Magic? Unless you're using skills from those lines, there's no real point is there?

Now, I must compliment you on your choice of attack skills. I'm SO tired of the Sever Artery -> Gash combo, and it only works on fleshy monsters. Your attacks work on everything and everything's brother in law.

Healing Signet; Great skill, bad if you don't have a defensive skill. Either get a good stance like Shield Stance or Defensive Stance (maybe even Gladiator's Defence, good skill but it's elite) and perhaps add in "Watch Yourself" instead of Sprint.

Minipet; useless vanity item. They're expencive and you can't show them off in town. I suggest you don't spend your money on them, but it's your choice. Besides, you get one yourself once your character is 1 year old.

I suggest you spend your money on getting some cooler armor, but that's just my opinion.

I have the points in blood magic because one of the skills I use uses curses, plus I cant raise any of the others higher(tatics, strength, swordsmanship.) I also use sprint alot, it really comes in handy for me. I use heal sig alot too. But I agree I lack a defensive skill and I need to get one thats not elite. I also use dragon slash if iam not using grenths balance. (I'd like to get a non elite defensive skill) Someone I was farming with traded one of his ssaki swords for a mini pet and I thought it was the coolest thing. I dont think I can get 15k armor yet since I just got to cavalon. Im not sure if I want that, would I have to buy my runes all over again?

Gabe3 · Aug 04, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

I would just upgrade my armor to max and get three superior runes(one of each kind) and two minor runes(your choice). I wouldn't upgrade ur sword just yet...i made that big mistake when i was at ur point, ended up bankrupt with bad armor. try for a better sheild though, DEFINATELY an exalted aegis (green) req. 9 strength. They are cheap and very nice.

I think that shield has the the same specs as my current

Yakumo · Aug 04, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

I suggest that you save your money... in case you do want to switch to 15K armor... and no you do not have to buy all your runes again. You expert salvage them off your old armor, and only buy the one(s) that you loose in the salvaging. (You only need to buy all the runes again if you want to have two sets of armor, one with a different function).

You've got 1.5k max armor, so that'll do the job of a 15k. Only change if you want a new look.

You've got a good sword, another one or two would be useful... zealous if you're going to run a build with more energy based skills, vampiric for additional damage, and/or elemental for those pesky warriors.

If your current shield does have the same specs of the Exalted Aegis, then there is really no need to change it... unless you want the looks.

ump · Aug 04, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Rancour

Are you seriously suggesting getting 3 Superior attribute runes?

I'm pretty sure he meant get a superior sword, axe, and hammer rune and put them on separate pieces of armor (same position such as boots) so you can switch easily to get the bonus to the weapon type you are using.

*lemming* · Aug 04, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by Rancour

Are you seriously suggesting getting 3 Superior attribute runes?

I think he meant sup weapon, vigor, and abs.

OP: Try 12+3+1 sword.

And Exalted Aegises are vanity items too; the Kaineng crafter shields with the same stats are far cheaper.

Gabe3 · Aug 05, 2006, 03:27 AM // 03:27

thanks for the help, what shield do you guys recommend?

Gabe3 · Aug 05, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47

I just got what I think to be a great deal on a green thorgall shield, I got it for 7k from someone. anyone know if it works good on a w/nec?

Rera · Aug 05, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58

If you're bringing Plague Touch there's no point in reducing condition duration. If you have a +30 health, -2/-5 damage shield, just keep that.

I was going to suggest investing in cosmetic improvements ... but then I noticed you're a male warrior. Meaning, no matter how much money you spend your character will never look any good :P.

140k isn't a lot of money. Save it up so you can buy some good, low-req perfect weapons and mods. Getting a full set of vampiric/zealous req8~9 15>50 weapons is rather expensive, and it only goes up if you need 'specialty' weapons for certain builds (like crippling bows for rangers). If you want to be cheap you can just buy crafted/collector weapons and add the relevant mods, but I personally hate wasting perfect mods on non-gold weapons :/.

Gabe3 · Aug 05, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by Rera

If you're bringing Plague Touch there's no point in reducing condition duration. If you have a +30 health, -2/-5 damage shield, just keep that.

I was going to suggest investing in cosmetic improvements ... but then I noticed you're a male warrior. Meaning, no matter how much money you spend your character will never look any good :P.

140k isn't a lot of money. Save it up so you can buy some good, low-req perfect weapons and mods. Getting a full set of vampiric/zealous req8~9 15>50 weapons is rather expensive, and it only goes up if you need 'specialty' weapons for certain builds (like crippling bows for rangers). If you want to be cheap you can just buy crafted/collector weapons and add the relevant mods, but I personally hate wasting perfect mods on non-gold weapons :/.

to expand my weapons I got;

ebon war hammer of warding
ebon spiked axe of enchanting
sundering war hammer of defense

I got each one for 1k, did I do good or waiste my money?

Rera · Aug 05, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

When buying weapons, there are 3 things that you should look at (and are what primarily determine the price):

1. Damage. You want max damage weapons only, there's no point using anything less than perfect because otherwise you'd be better off using collector weapons. Max for swords is 15-22, axes is 6-28, and hammers is 19-35.

2. Requirement. This dictates how high your stat in the requisite weapon mastery has to be in order to take full advantage of the weapon. While you will usually run 16 in your weapon mastery of choice, you still want the lowest req you can afford in order to remain flexible. Req8 is generally considered the best you can get, although it *is* possible to get req7 perfect weapons. I wouldn't go any higher than req9 unless there's a rare-skinned weapon that you *really* want but can't afford at req8~9. Any higher than req9 on most weapons doesn't make any sense because you could just use a collector weapon instead.

3. Damage bonus. You will want Damage +15% while health is above 50% on pretty much all of your weapons. While it's certainly true that 15% in stance or 15% while enchanted are better in certain cases, +15%>50 is almost always applicable (if you can't keep your health above 50%, you have another problem). For general use, all of your weapons should be 15%>50, and keep 15% stance/enchant weapons in stash for specialty builds. Also, unconditional +15% damage, with -10AL while attacking or -5e are not acceptable.

The prefix/suffix of the weapon tends to affect the weapon price if they're perfect and desirable mods, typically 20/20 sundering and +30 health. Unless you're extremely rich it generally doesn't make sense to buy these weapons, because the seller often added these mods specifically in order to raise the price beyond reasonable values. Furthermore, these mods generally aren't the mods you're going to want. +30 health is okay, but both zealous and vampiric are conditionally better than 20/20 sundering, and cost a small fraction of what the 20/20 will run you (if anything, if the weapon was found with the mod included).

So basically, you want perfect damage, req8~9, +15%>50 weapons only. If you can't afford these, use collector/crafted weapons until you can. And don't pay for overpriced mods.

r0cki · Aug 05, 2006, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Buy Victo's Axe (the 20/20 one), buy Exalted Aegis (Str or Tact, u choose), buy 1.5k kurzick armor and dye it silver. That's it.

Gabe3 · Aug 05, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by r0cki

Buy Victo's Axe (the 20/20 one), buy Exalted Aegis (Str or Tact, u choose), buy 1.5k kurzick armor and dye it silver. That's it.

whats some more good axe's and hammers? I have about 140k

mitch herbort · Aug 06, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Explore ur warrior, change ur secondary and try to farm with each and every secondary its great to do if u have cash and want a challenge. Come up with some builds buy the neccasary skills and armor and weapons really complete the game man not just the missions but the combos, the effects of skills used in certain orders, this has kept me busy and happy for a couple months. hope this helps

Dante the Warlord · Aug 06, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

If anyone wonders i did indeed mean superior vigor , attribute, and absorption runes. Although, I think that when looking for a sheild try to go for the strength ones.

If you are looking for good looking armor, try the luxon 15k (i think nicest look in factions) or platemail 15k (i think the nicest looking in prophecies). And if you really get rich...buy some black dye for the platemail, looks way cool, add a gothic sword or zodiac sword and if your that rich get mini pets bone dragon and kuunavarg...its probably the best look for a warrior. *note: i agree with Rera in that male warriors are ugly, but they are only ugly if you can only see their faces, which look kinda stupid :-P

Haha...some of those things are what id wish to have in the future :-).

Gabe3 · Aug 06, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

can anyone give me some names of some really good axe's and hammers?

I was farming stuff earlyer and the boss droped a gold sundering marble hammer of hammer mastery

is it pritty good?? should I keep it for building up my weapons?

btw: just bought a victo's battle axe for 26k

mitch herbort · Aug 06, 2006, 02:15 PM // 14:15

: / my favorite axe would have to be sundering zodiac axe of fortitude with all max mods, but that would cost u a crapload i sold mine to a guildie for 70k

Gabe3 · Aug 07, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

Well I got a good axe and hammer now, it seems like the skills for the hammer are nicer

can anyone give me a good skill set for a axe and hammer

jagosteel226 · Aug 07, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

i use axe on my warrior and i pwn with him lol

1. Cleave(elite) (this is going to be your bread and butter skill for axe)
2. Penetrating Blow(all around awesome skill)
3. Executioner Strike(massive damage= fun)
4. Cyclone Axe(good for adrenaline when ur surrounded)
5. Healing Signet(one of the best self heals out there just make sure you have watch yourself or shield stance on when you use it if you're under heavy fire)
6. "Watch Yourself!"(awesome skill, makes you live longer, also helps offset healing sig's armor penalty)
7. Shield Stance(best stance in the game IMO, longest last time, doesn't end when you use a skill, only penalty is the movement which you probably won't need if you have to use this

)
8. Rez/capture/ w/e you want

there has been an ongoing debate whether cleave or eviscerate is better but the fact of the matter is, cleave will be more beneficial most of the time. cleave's small cost makes it extremely effective for taking on many opponents especially if you're monk secondary and have balthlazar's spirit. eviscerate is better for taking down a single opponent such as a final boss or pvp.

yes, this build is pure warrior and it only requires prophecies... deal with it, it works for me

one final tip, there is no reason why you should not use minor runes, they have no downside!!!