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Old Feb 14, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #21
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Warrior/Monk
*Attributes
-8 Healing
-11+ Axe Mastery
-12 Tactics
-8 Strength
*Skills
-Bonettti's Defence
-Gladz Defence
-Doylak Signet (use all 3 of these for defence ^)
-Cyclone Axe
-Vig spirit
-(forgot but it does same thing as vig spirit but its an enchantment, check healing)
-Mending
-Balthazars Spirit

Awesome for me, I usually farm 1k+ average solo if you kill all the trolls + gold items every now and then.
So far I have gotten 1 silver, 1 black, and a half of dozen other dyes, maybe 10 gold items? Its good place for only doing it for a few days.
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Old Feb 14, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30   #22
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i got a better build and it goes liek this:

attributes:
healing prayers-10
smiting prayers-10
tactics-11

take note that these are the minimum requirements, feel free to add mroe to misting and tactics.

skills:
cyclone axe
bonetti's defense
vigorous spirit
glad's def
symbol of wrath
sprint
balzathars spirit
live vicariously

all you have to do is go to talus chute through droknars, put on balthazars spirit, wait to have at least 20 energy then cast live vicariously. use sprint to get past avicaras and get to cave faster; balthazars spirit should ahve recharged about 4 energy 'cause of the avicara fierces' arrows. when u get to trolls use glad's def and then vigorous spirit. use cyclone axe to charge ur adrenaline, and when glads is about to run out use bonetti's. when cyclone axe is about half way recharged cast symbol of wrath, and use cyclone axe as fast as u can to gain health and charge up bonnettis so u cna sue it right away. becaue of the patch about half of the trols should run away, dont worry the come back liek 1 second later. when they get back use cyclone axe and bonnettis if glads def hasn't recharged, if it is then use it. by the time u've done all of this vigorous spirit should be almost done so cast it while you still have galds def on you. now all you ahve to do is repeat this process about 2 more times. it takes a few tries to get used to it and get the timing right, so dont try it once and leave if u dont get it right away.

i would also recomend using an axe of enchantment so your vigorous spirit lasts longer.another that u should watch out for is interupts, once in a few runs the trolls will interupt your cyclone axe, to stay alive just keep spamming bonettis defense and glad's defense(remeber you can only have once stance one you at a time so dont use them together)
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 03:55 AM // 03:55   #23
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i beleive lamdathegreat(? i think it was him, if not to whom ever made this 1) had an awesome build which i currently use for trolls. it goes:

axe W/r
Glads armor preferred, i think u might be able to use others,
12 axe
11 tac
10 str
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Apply poison
serpents quickness
doylak signet
gladiator's defenses
cyclone axe
bonettis defenses
watch yourself
sprint

i get all the aggro of the trolls then cast serpents quickness -> doylak Sig -> Glads defenses -> apply poison -> cyclone axe -> bonettis def, then keep switching off cyclone axe and bonettis def while adding watch yourself and doylak sig in the mix until glads def recharges. once it does recharge, re apply poison, and cyclone axe, watch yourself cyclone axe, bon def.then kill off the other alive, etc. this build owns, i can do 1 run in about 3-5minutes.
i also prefer to have glads armor for the energy, 2 dif axes (1 vamp, 1 15%in a stance with armor upgrade), and the +45hp - 2 dmg stance crimson carapece shield from that 1 collector. i think u guys should use this for gettin skill points bcuz w/ scroll u get 1 in like 8 minutes, along with selling to get a plat to buy skills, etc. props to whomever i found this build on.
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00   #24
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ive always looked on trolls as the easier versions of griffons with less drops ^^, good guide though!

drop breeze for sprint and holy viel for live vicausly
ditto

i do the same run except i go up and kill the giants, followed by a run into teh grawls for runes.
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Old Feb 16, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05   #25
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What wields better drops, Trolls or Ettins?
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Old Feb 16, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #26
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Ettins drop runes.
Trolls drop everything else.
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Old Feb 16, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00   #27
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I have found that griffs drop more gold and more purple/gold items, but at the same time they are fairly crappy when I.D.ed. Trolls drop raven staffs and staffs=wood. Ettins drop runes, but we all know how hard it is to get that coveted Superior anything. If you need a quick 1k boost for some purpose farm trolls for 2-3 runs and sell the wood. If you have more time and want the chance to get a good mod go for grifs.
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Old Feb 25, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #28
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we having fun yet
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Old Feb 26, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34   #29
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^^

what do u use for energy regen?
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Old Feb 26, 2006, 04:35 AM // 04:35   #30
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oh realized u have a (*zealous*)
sword when i noticed that u only have 1 enchant drain up
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Old Feb 26, 2006, 02:35 PM // 14:35   #31
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yep yep , gah trolls realy are not worth the runs no more
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Old Feb 26, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17   #32
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hm
i have a build with only 5 skills..

Cyclo
Bonetti
Vigorous
Gladiators
live vicorously

thats all
it works on griff farm too
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Old Feb 26, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #33
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it acualy works without vigerous spirit hehe , yeah well if u got 8 skills slots there is nothing wrong with filling emm
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Old Feb 26, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #34
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we having fun yet
Might want to edit out your guildies' name.
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Old Feb 26, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44   #35
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woops ...
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Old Mar 20, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45   #36
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this is the build i use, very good energy management even when NOT in bonnetis =p

Tatics: 10+1+1 (Helm and Rune)
Axe Mastery:11
Healing Prayers: 9
Pump rest in Smiting and Strength.

Equipment:
Full Gladiators Armor
-Major/Sup Vigor and Absorb
-Grognars Defender or the Crimson Carapace Shield.
-Axe (Duh) I personally use a Razorstone.

Cyclone Axe
Gladiators Defence
Bonneti's Defence
Sprint
Healing Signet (Not Really Needed)
Healing Breeze
Bathazar's Spirit
Live Vicariously

How to Use:
1) Go to Talus Chute and cast both enchants.
2) Run towards the cave, if there are avicara and trolls wondering about, no worries, sprint past them, they dont follow much.
3) Barge in the cave and aggro a bunch of trolls.
4) Slap on Gladiators Defence.
5) While Glad's is still on, cyclone as much as you can.
6) When Glad's runs out, slap on Bonnetis and wait for cyclone to recharge.
7) Keep spamming Cyclone and Bonnetis until Glads is recharged.
8) Put glads on, use healing breeze if needed at THIS TIME ONLY and spam cyclone.
9) Repeat until they are all dead.

This works real great and i only died twice when i was body blocked while running to the troll caves.

Live Vicariously would heal you for a BUNCH, you will see tons of blue +11's whenever you cyclone, so there isnt really a way how you can die. Bathazar's Spirit gives you energy whenever your in gladiators.

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 02:15 PM // 14:15   #37
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Tip: if you are using breeze , do not do cyclone axe sriaght after , wait a second then do so , breeze can trigger all the trolls to attempt disrupting chop, they are too slow to hit your breeze but will accidently hit cyclone axe , its happened to me too many times.
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33   #38
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Battle Torn's build is magnificient for this.

Cyclone Axe
Bonettis Defense
Gladiators Defense
Sprint
Healing Breeze
Live Vicariously
Balthazaar's Spirit
Mending

Just cast Mending and balths spirit right out of the gate. Run into the group of avicara and watch Dual shot + ignite arrows give you 4 energy per hit. When your full on energy, sprint out, and up the hill into the cave.

I prefer to run PAST the big group, and running to the warrior bosses group (Krogg Shmush) and then bringing him back down to the bg group. This gives you a big guy with tons of HP. Just drag him into the big group, hit Glads Defense, then Live VIariously, and then throw out the cyclone. IMMEDIATELY throwdown BOnnetis Defense, and watch your energy max out. Just stay targeting Krogg and cylcone when it comes back up. When glads Defense comes bacl online, cyclone then hit it. Dont hit bonnetis until Glads is blinking to go out, as you dont want to waste the damage output.

When you get used to this, drop the uneeded Healing Breeze for an adrenaline attack to speed up killing the boss.

Dont bother with the ranger boss.
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 04:41 AM // 04:41   #39
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Yet again I feel it's my roll to point out that war's don't have all the fun. I've been teaching a good number of people how to solo trap this lately. Not difficult at all. I use:

beast 7
exp. 13
wild. 15

4 traps
Serpent's quickness
troll ungent
storm chaser
Edge of extinction

Can anyone provide more details on salvaging wood? I usually just ID and sell everthing (staves are like 70-80 gold a pop). Does salvaging wood beat this? What are the details of the parchment process, and does it beat those numbers?
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12   #40
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Tip: if you are using breeze , do not do cyclone axe sriaght after , wait a second then do so , breeze can trigger all the trolls to attempt disrupting chop, they are too slow to hit your breeze but will accidently hit cyclone axe , its happened to me too many times.
yea thats what i do =p or you can also, glads, cyclone, breeze, by the time cyclone recharges, they would of finished spamming disrupting.

and how do u solo trap the trolls? set traps then pull? sometimes they spawn near the entrance of the cave =/ and mantra of resolve would drain your energy so fast in this case..
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