Curse

Wretchman Drake · Mar 20, 2007, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I thought of a nasty combo that could help provide a quick spike...

Strength: 14
Axe Mastery: 16

1.) BoA (Burst of Aggression)
2.) RotN (Rage of the Ntouka) {E}
3.) Dismember
4.) Axe Rake
5.) Axe Twist
6.) Shock
7.) Lacerating Chop
8.) Res Sig

Basically follow the chain. Use Rage of the Ntouka to give you 7 Adrenaline, and with BoA to attack fast, it begins. Inflict a DP right away, then cripple your target, make them suffer Weakness as well as extra damage, then since your target is crippled and Weakness provides a cover condition in case they try to remove it, they shouldn't be too far from you when you use Shock to knock them down, and then inflict bleeding... On top of this, the DPS should be great once they have the DP on them too...

Any thoughts? I'm tempted to try this combo...

ss1986v2 · Mar 20, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

i wouldnt call this much of a spike, basically because you have very little +dmg anywhere in your chain. with only axe rake and lacerating chop with any (only +32 dmg together), you are already behind just the single attack eviscerate (+33 dmg). not to mention the fact that the dmg and DW of evis come at the same time, actually creating the spike factor. the goal of a spike should be to drop your target as fast as possible, while this really doesnt even put a dent in your targets health. one well placed GoH or RoF essentially negates all your dmg. and you are running both a superior rune as well as a major. this makes you an easy spike target, and a sure bet to dp'd out rather fast.

in RA, AB, sure this might work. but its still not your best option. in any higher higher pvp, this build wont even be an annoyance (your conditions will be drawn, touched, or RC'd right off, leaving a build with no dmg and very little utility to bring to the table). axe twist and axe rake have never seen use before, and definitely not now with all the condition removal run these days. and in pve, sure, but you can run pve with an empty skill bar. that shouldnt really be a test for a build.

i dont think the shock axe even needs to be reborn, mainly because is never died. hop onto observe, and you will see teams still running what is essentially the same old evis/exe/shock axe thats been run forever it seems. no need to reinvent the wheel here. and defiantly not like this.

Thom Bangalter · Mar 20, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

if the shock warrior was reborn into a mentally disabled lobster boy, than sure.

jrk247 · Mar 20, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

Ok first of all the whole point of using shock is to keep the foe from fleeing and do an interupt/KD. You have crippling on them already so there isn't really a need for shock in there. And also shock is used in a spike with the eviscerate chain to shock the foe at the last minute to make sure they die. This is a bad build for PvP and I would think it would suck in high level PvE. And what's with all the conditions? For a spike (shock) build the only condition you need is a deep wound.

BTW, don't put attribute points in strength it's such a waste.

Lord Natural · Mar 20, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Do you mean for PvE? If so, swap BoA for Flail or something. Flail will keep your attack speed boost for pretty much 100% of the time, compared to 42% for BoA. The more damage, the better.

For PvP, that seems like a lot of work when the traditional frenzy+evis+exec will provide greater pressure.

Thomas.knbk · Mar 20, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

The shock warrior was never dead.

This one is quite bad.

Toilet Oni · Mar 20, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Executioner's Strike insted of Axe Twist or Lacerating Chop.
Makes a nicer spike

oh, and a speed boost

clawofcrimson · Mar 20, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Boa is fine for pvp spike (actually it works pretty well when you are unloading all your adren skills anyway) but the elite is probably not the best choice for a spike....

I say you should gain adren the old fashioned way and then coordinate the spike.... if you want shock i would go

[card]eviscerate[/card] or [card]"charge!"[/card] (charge for sword warriors...shock>sever>gash>ft...while charge and BOA is on)

favour eviscerate in most situations

Wretchman Drake · Mar 20, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Well then sorry for my "noobishness". Haven't played a PVP Warrior in a while besides a Steady Stance Warrior.

My-way Ftw · Mar 20, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Never liked Shock warrior, still i guess clicking Shock 5 times in succession isnt such a good idea.

Loved the Steady Stance builds, but for now i use BoA sin, for spiking so fast.

clawofcrimson · Mar 20, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I was surprised to see the top guilds running them again... (observe mode ftw) but they are still surprisingly usefull

My-way Ftw · Mar 20, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13

I guess they do annoy monks

Particularly when coupled with stoneskin gauntlets.

Age · Mar 20, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

I still use it for the most part in AB and a little RA as well as in PvE.It is the classic shock/frenzy one axe rake,excu,evisc.Yeah I use it as I am un aware of the new Warrior builds for PvP so I use this.I like using it in PvE as well for the damage out put.I never thought it was dead.

Alanus · Mar 21, 2007, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

Well then sorry for my "noobishness". Haven't played a PVP Warrior in a while besides a Steady Stance Warrior.

Don't apologize. People on guru are typically too stubborn to realize anything with their close-mindedness. They don't know what "think outside the box" means. Sadly.

[DE] · Mar 21, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47

If a build is subpar to current builds than why should we consider using it?

Alanus · Mar 21, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Phantom

If a build is subpar to current builds than why should we consider using it?

Oh, my apologies. You are right, it must suck just because it's not advertised on wiki.

/sarcasm off

Bankai · Mar 21, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Erm, no. It sucks because you're trying to use shock in a spike, while it should be used to make the unit stand still so you can spike faster, make sure he can't cast or to randomly annoy him. You're using to inflict freaking bleeding.

Also, it's way too late in the chain. By the time your shock lands, the opponent will be fully healed to health. Not to mention the absurd length of your chain.

Wretchman Drake · Mar 21, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Can the flaming just stop and plz lock thread, it was just an idea anyways. As if people in here aren't ****** ******** enough already.

-.- · Mar 22, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Next time don't make threads with just ideas unless you have at least tested it out.

[DE] · Mar 22, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alanus

Oh, my apologies. You are right, it must suck just because it's not advertised on wiki.

/sarcasm off

Try out his posted build and see for yourself.

That's what I did.