Curse

farmpig · Jun 21, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Save yourselves +100ar what do u reckon?

So does this skill rules or does it damage your build?

ArKaiN · Jun 21, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23

its not +100ar.
its +100ar to your allies.

Stormlord Alex · Jun 21, 2007, 06:29 AM // 06:29

It's pretty good.
I'd rather stick it on a paragon, or some other midliner who doesn't need the armour boost as much.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 21, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01

It'd be interesting if it was chained amoungst various party members, could be useful for dual farming and hard mode.

DarkGanni · Jun 23, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

No comment from my side, I still find the armor cap rediculous.

just my 2 cents.....

Cathode_Reborn · Jun 24, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54

With a high rank, it's insanely awesome. Sadly, the title it's linked to is insanely ridiculous.

At a lower rank, it's somewhat similar to: [skill]"Incoming!"[/skill]

Build up the adren for it and use it when you see that somethin big is about to whack your party.

Rain Slip · Jul 03, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Yer its a good skill sometimes i put it in my bar when doing elite missions, areas etc

leeky baby · Jul 03, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

saved me many times while vanquishing xD

TempusReborn · Jul 04, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Im using it atm Barrage + Frenzy + Save Yourselves
Despite Being only a Kurzick Rank 1 I can keep it maintained continuiosly Thanks to Barrage (accept against only pairs of enimies)

Zodiak · Jul 04, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

It would be interesting to use if you were to try farming as two warriors with a friend.

Perfected Shadow · Jul 04, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Quote:

It would be interesting to use if you were to try farming as two warriors with a friend.

Won't work, only one copy of the skill will stay up at one time, which means one warrior would always lack the +100 bonus armor.

Zodiak · Jul 04, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Please explain to me how the effect of a shout that affects everyone but yourself is overriden by someone using the same shout that doesnt affect the initial shout thats affecting him but affecting everyone else but him the second time.

the way guildwar's game physics currently work should be fine shouts are unlike enchantments

Teutonic Paladin · Jul 06, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Player 1 uses "Save Yourselves!", everyone but him has 3 seconds of +100 AL.
Player 2 usese it one second later, everyone but him has 3 seconds of +100 AL and he has 2 seconds due to the first cast.

Honestly, I loathe this skill. I think warriors got the shaft in this update and that both skills could be much much better without being overpowered. Very rarely can I build up 8 adrenaline and still have enough live enemies on the field to warrant +100 armor. Without the absurd ability of a paragon to maintain this it's worthless. I'd suggest they make these changes:

+0...48...60 (0...12...15) Armor (based on Strength) to all other allies at the current length of time. Reduce adrenaline to five, maybe six.

Khorrax · Jul 08, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27

You can use it effectively with a Dragon Slash build, even at low rank.

Snow Bunny · Jul 12, 2007, 10:02 PM // 22:02

It's proving to be very valuable in the Deep HM, with steel wall. You just SY!, and then prot the shouter. It has its uses, they are limited though. Too bad it's not a para skill...it'd be amazing.

phool · Jul 12, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

This skill is awesome. I have friend of the luxons (3) for 4 seconds and it's plenty to keep this up all the time in fairly ideal conditions and very almost always in most conditions without gimping yourself in any way for it. This is the team I've been running recently.

Player - 12+2/3+1 sword, 12+1 strength
[skill]Power Attack[/skill]Whirlwind Attack[skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill]"Save Yourselves!"[skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill] Power attack, not an obvious choice for a sword bar, is there to use after flail and SY as they can't be immediately followed with an adrenal skill. All the other attacks have an emphasis on gaining adrenaline while still pumping out good damage.

Morgahn - 9+1 command, 9+1 leadership, 9+1 motivation, 9+2+1 spear
[skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][skill]"Go For The Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Anthem of Envy[/skill][skill]Finale of Restoration[/skill][skill]Song of Restoration[/skill][skill]"Never Surrender!"[/skill][skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill] Quite an average elite. Finale makes it better than it would normally be. Anthem of Fury is just overkill though with dark fury, stuff like expel hexes tends to be ineffective in HM, signet of removal takes too much time from him, BiP is not useful with hench...

Koss - 11+2+1 axe, 10+1 tactics, 10 motivation
[skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Axe Rake[/skill][skill]Agonizing Chop[/skill][skill]penetrating chop[/skill][skill]"Charge!"[/skill][skill]Finale of Restoration[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] I like chaining charges with devona/thom. Axe rake because I started to get irritated by monks running in circles too fast for someone with charge on to keep up, changes to wild blow or distracting blow etc as needed.

Melonni - 11 blood, 9+2+1 mysticism, 9+1 wind, 6 death
[skill]Order of Pain[/skill][skill]Dark Fury[/skill][skill]Mystic Healing[/skill][skill]Arcane Zeal[/skill][skill]Vow of Piety[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill][skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill]free slot, often verata's aura because I seriously hate to micro and this gets about 180 seconds without even trying. She's not amazing with this build but good enough for it to be worth it.

I've been H/H vanquishing a lot of HM with this team very successfully, all thanks to "SY!", with 1-2 monks and some more hench warriors/sogolon (surprisingly Alesia+Thom have done very well in a lot of those Tyrian 6 man areas). I started to build more shouts into the build and added finale of restoration which is potentially incredible party healing, considering hench like to wand triggering GFTE and won't allow shouts like WY to overlap.

Obviously I need to change things around a bit when it comes to stuff like areas in Kryta where the only monk is Alesia and your entire team is covered in 20 curses SSs from 10 skales. Even Pious restoration+dark fury+order of pain can't cope that well so I just switch to something like nuker, mm and LoD as per usual.

Risa · Jul 13, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

8 adrenaline for such a short period of armor gain? Hmm...The common warrior would be spamming off this skill whenever he has the adrenaline filled. If used correctly, it might be worth a place on your bar, but if you're relying on it to "save yourselves", find a better pair of monks.

blue.rellik · Jul 13, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Personally I think it's better on a support paragon. I had one in a group with SY and all those new paragon PvE skills and she was doing an incredible job protecting the party as she cycled Watch Yourself, Save Yourself and There's nothing to fear

Racthoh · Jul 16, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

Barrager or Paragon, to a lesser extent Dragon Slash warriors and to an even lesser extent assassins (Moebius or Locust's Fury could work) are the only characters I would consider running the skill on. You need a character that can build adrenaline quickly so the downtime isn't too drastic. Otherwise, time it well against those channeling rit bosses in hard mode.

A Leprechaun · Jul 16, 2007, 10:18 AM // 10:18

As for building adrenaline quickly, a dervish can gain 3 strikes at once. Would it work well? I used to used watch yourself on my dervish and it worked fine.

~A Leprechaun~