Curse

A Leprechaun · Jul 19, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

The build is pretty simple and although it does include monk skills, works very very well.

Ok so lets go...

Equiptment:
**optional** 15^50 sword of fortitude
tactics shield of fortitude (+60 while hexed is handy as hexing is the only thing you have no counter for)

Full Surviour armour
Sword helm
Major swordsmanship rune
Minor tactics rune
Vitae rune
Vitae rune
Superior Vigor rune

Attributes:
Sword - 14 (11+2+1)
Protection - 10
Tactics - 11 (10+1)
Strength - 1

Skills:
Sever Artery - Bleed
Gash - Deep wound
Sun and Moon Slash - Nice preasure
Riposte - Everyone says its a noob's PvP skill but say that when you do 64 points of armour ingoring damage against the melee foe wailing on you for just 4 adrenaline. Although it is handy, its not essential, you could replace this with another adrenaline skill.
Watch Youself - AoE + 20 armour, good news
Lions Comfort - 88 point heal
Life Sheath - negates the next 110 damage, key skill, and only for 5 energy.
Mending touch - Good condition removal, and if you remove two conditions thats a tasty 70 point heal, mmm.

Usage:
This build can solo ranger and warrior shrines with ease, also mesmer shrines; just dont use life sheath. It could aslo solo the others but thankfully I have so far always had help with me when I have capped them. The idea is just to throw up life sheath and watch yourslef, heal with lion's comfort and mending touch and preasure the enemy to death. You should survive way longer with your high health and great defensive skills.
The damage isnt amazing but it doesnt need to be, killing dumb NPC's is easy. And if you say what about killing players, its ok at that, but that is not the aim of AB, cap and run is, which this build is great at.
I am usually of the persuation that monk skills on a warrior is a No-No but this build is totally different, it works great.

Any questions about the build I will answer, any suggestions I will try, and please can no-one flame, especially if you have not even tryed the build in AB.

Thanks for reading.

~A Leprechaun~

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 19, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Honestly, id say just make an ele if youre only goal is to cap. Your build might be able to solo shrines, but it's sill ineffective. More than half your skillbar and your elite are self-protection skills. To win an AB match against a good team, you need high offense to cap fast. With a build like this, itll take you a while to just cap one shrine. When it comes to solo'ing shrines, AB has never favored melee classes since they have to move in close and aggro every shrine npc. It is a team game though, you won't always be solo'ing. Against a good team, your lack of offense will only slow down the capping process.

Mes shrines will just shatter Life Sheath. Ele shrines will force you to constantly heal. Necro shrines will slap Faintheartedness on you. Monk shrines will easily outheal your damage.

If you're gonna pack that much selfhealing, at least use some kind of hex removal. If you're really interested in solo'ing shrines I'd redo this whole build. Using an offensive build with high strength with Dolyak signet and maxed weapon mastery, I'm sure you'll get much better results. "The best defense is a good offense" has truth in it.

moko · Jul 19, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Life Sheath is a bad elite, doesn't matter if it's on a monk or anything else.

no speedboost, no ias..meh, you're a warrior.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 19, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Dunno what to make of it...

Regardless, it needs more IAS.
you need a REALLY good reason not to run IAS.

Jetdoc · Jul 19, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

The damage isnt amazing but it doesnt need to be, killing dumb NPC's is easy. And if you say what about killing players, its ok at that, but that is not the aim of AB, cap and run is, which this build is great at.

1. AB is not only about capping, it's about capping FAST. This build doesn't allow you to cap shrines fast (or at least faster than other builds/classes).

2. AB is also about getting to the next shrine FAST (i.e. the cap and "RUN" part you reference above). You really need a running skill to accomplish that.

Try switching up your build a bit, and I think it's manageable:

Skills:
Sever Artery - Bleed
Gash - Deep wound
Sun and Moon Slash - Nice preasure
Lions Comfort - 88 point heal
Mending touch - Good condition removal, and if you remove two conditions thats a tasty 70 point heal, mmm.
***Flail - the IAS your build is lacking
***Sprint - the speed boost your build is lacking
***Elite of your choice. Charge! is nice, to move your entire group faster to the next shrine, but you've got a wide variety to choose from.

frojack · Jul 19, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

If your going to run around in AB with random, monk/rit-less teams, you might as well just be a 'proper' warrior. Throw in Heal Sig and Mend Touch/Sig of Malice and call it a day.

If your gonna go down, do it like a warrior; take down as many as you can with you. Nobody does it better. Not even Bond himself

...

Darkpower Alchemist · Jul 19, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

I'm the last guy who want to bash a warrior, but you might as well be a healing hands wammo at the rate you're going. Not meant to flame, but no IAS and No Speed boost, makes you more of a target than a threat.

The sins have IAS. The rangers have blocks and conditions, and if they blind you, LC is very much useless(Might as well be an empty slot).

Swap Sever for [skill=card]Crippling Slash[/skill], Life Sheath for the IAS of choice, and WY! for a run skill of choice, and the rest is fine.

HF after you change the build. Be effective. I am a riposte fan while in AB-I'll never knock a riposte warrior.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 19, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by frojack

Not even Bond himself

...

That's cause Bond wouldn't go down. He'd single-handedly fight off all of the Russians/Terrorists/Kurzicks - with perfect British style, naturally. Then say something witty. Tenner says he'd even make Point Blank Shot not suck. Bastard.

frojack · Jul 20, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

That's cause Bond wouldn't go down. He'd single-handedly fight off all of the Russians/Terrorists/Kurzicks - with perfect British style, naturally. Then say something witty. Tenner says he'd even make Point Blank Shot not suck. Bastard.

Ain't that the truth. He'd probably do all this with a longbow as well (the almighty damage king). ^_^

Incidentally, have had much fun on occasion in AB running this on a war...

[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill]

Stonefists, 8 air. The rest should be obvious.

This is also fun...

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Magehunter Strike[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill]

MageHunter's... I know, I know... Think of it as a dirty secret.

A Leprechaun · Jul 20, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

I really do see where you guys are all coming from, and yes it has no IAS and no speed boost, and yes AB is about capping fast. But you dont seem to realise that in AB you hardly ever have a trusty monk to keep you alive, and most of the time you have no-one with you at all, as for my build not being able to cap/run fast enough, in a game where increasing amounts of players just like to go and have a mass brawl with kuzicks, I usually find myself capping alone anyway. So even if my capping and running is slow at least I am capping ^^.

Yes there are better builds for this job, but this is the best ( In my experiance) and most fun warrior build I have used for doing this.

My old warrior build was
[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Tiger Stance[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Signet of malice[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill] or [skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

And I just used to duff up kurzicks with it, which it was ok at. But as I have said the game is about capping and having fun, this build sucks at capping unless your with a sweet team who never ever leave you, and in my opinion is no where near as fun.

Oh and has anyone tryed the build yet, it really is quite fun.

Sorry in advance for any spelling or gramatical errors in this rushed post.
~A Leprechaun ~

*added*
"Mes shrines will just shatter Life Sheath. Ele shrines will force you to constantly heal. Necro shrines will slap Faintheartedness on you. Monk shrines will easily outheal your damage."

Like my post said, this build can solo mes shrine, you just dont use life sheath, it is pretty effective (although not quite good enough to solo) the monk and necro shrines also. But your right about ele shrines they're tough.

frojack · Jul 20, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

I wouldn't use Lion's With Sig of Malice btw. Nor would I use it with Final...

A Leprechaun · Jul 20, 2007, 01:04 PM // 13:04

thats why i use heal sig some/most of the time.

samcobra · Jul 20, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

capping and running is retarded. If you cap and run, the other team overcaps and you get max 1 point for your wasted time? that is absolute trash. Seriously, learn to fight and defend shrines. People in Alliance Battles are idiots.

A Leprechaun · Jul 21, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by samcobra

capping and running is retarded. If you cap and run, the other team overcaps and you get max 1 point for your wasted time? that is absolute trash. Seriously, learn to fight and defend shrines. People in Alliance Battles are idiots.

Yes, your right people in alliance battles are idiots, they fight and defend shrines.

~A Leprechaun~

P.S. This build could do that, if it were the best thing to do, which its not.

deluxe · Jul 21, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

What the hell is wrong with people who think that running a monk elite on a warrior is a good choice, and then Life Sheath? Sheesh even Healing Hands would be a wiser choice.

Twinsoul · Jul 21, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Bad build, if you want to solo cap, run an elementalist or ranger, if you still want to be a warrior, YAA! and Crippling Slash are good builds for AB.

Snow Bunny · Jul 24, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Mmm...in AB...you're meant to be self-supportive. This does not mean you are pardoned for running a monk elite.
For an IAS...don't run flail. Run Tiger stance...or in my case because of so many bodies lying around, IWAY if used intelligently is amazing in AB.
For a faster run, Rush is really nice.
For an elite, I personally favor You're All Alone! It takes out melee/rangers, and people can't kite well against it, and no investment in attr points for it.

Please...don't use riposte. God kills a kitten every time you use a riposte.

samcobra · Jul 24, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

Yes, your right people in alliance battles are idiots, they fight and defend shrines.

~A Leprechaun~

P.S. This build could do that, if it were the best thing to do, which its not.

I don't even understand your response. Like, clarity of thoughts imo.

Anyway, yes, solo capping and running away, letting others recap is absolutely retarded. Collapse on people trying to cap your shrines. Basically what wins alliance battles isn't shrine caps or stupid stuff but simple kill/death ratio. If everyone has a higher kill/death ratio than the other team, shrines become moot, as you can cap shrines at your leisure.

netniwk · Jul 24, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by samcobra

I don't even understand your response. Like, clarity of thoughts imo.

Anyway, yes, solo capping and running away, letting others recap is absolutely retarded. Collapse on people trying to cap your shrines. Basically what wins alliance battles isn't shrine caps or stupid stuff but simple kill/death ratio. If everyone has a higher kill/death ratio than the other team, shrines become moot, as you can cap shrines at your leisure.

your kind is the reason i stopped Ab'ing.......

A Leprechaun · Jul 24, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

@ deluxe: Right I see where your coming from with the whole monk elite on a warrior thing but healing hands!!, it last 10 seconds and has a 25second cooldown, at least you can pretty much keep life sheath up most of the time, and it doesnt even lower your energy that much.
@ Twinsoul: Ok so your on your own, in an AB, your capping a shrine and some enemys show up, whats goin to save you? Healing signet alone? But i have used the build before and it worked ok, you just had to stay close to team members and hope for the best.

@ Snow bunny: yeah riposte is not really needed but I got fed up with being raped by assasins teams so I put it in as a little deterant.

@ Samcobra: Oh dear.

@ netniwk: I agree entirly.

Ahh, what have I written, hope I didnt offend anyone. Thats just my point of view form my experiances.

Cheers for the feedback.
~A Leprechaun~