Curse

zomga48 · Jul 24, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

As the title says, I need an effective spider farming build for Fow. Because of the recent update preventing armor stacking above 25 the physical resistance/dolyak signet has become obsolete. So I need a new build that will work. I have tried using protection prayers and such, shield of regeneration works like a charm for staying alive but i just cant seem to get enough damage potential/interupt healing springs. I can handle the snarling driftwoods and doubters dryders easily but i get to the spiders and they just keep dropping down and overwhelming me. I would really appreciate an effective build because its like my favorite farming spot. (Until before the update anyway.)

o m g pizowned · Jul 24, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

OQATEVqWXqrItIAgvaH8vg8pvAA <-- template code for what i use...equipment can be zealous/vampiric sword with +7 vs physical, sup strength rune on a strength helm, sup swordsmanship. +10 vs piercing shield

if you have any other questions please pm me in-game i'd be happy to explain
IGN - Joe Is Beastly

zomga48 · Jul 24, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

sorry for the several posts, i was lagging and didnt realize i was posting this thread several times, please close all of them except this one

zomga48 · Jul 24, 2007, 09:16 PM // 21:16

wow thanx for the quick reply, very simple, never would have thought of it. ill try it out. One question tho, is healing sig really enough to stay alive? i guess i could also switch to the insignia that gives armor+10 to physical and i alredy have almsot the perfect sword its max vamp 15^50 but its of defense+5 instead of shelter which i would assume can work jsut as well, i dont have the shield yet but luckily geoffers bulwark is an ez farm.

now that i think of it:

80+20 body+10 insigna
10 shield
5 sword
is alredy a hefty 125 armor w/out dolyak, awesome.

dies like fish · Jul 24, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Healing Signet counters poison.

royal mercenary · Jul 25, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59

strange build
could some post also a map how to get a spider ?
trying to find it everywhere but only found posts people selling spider runs

blue.rellik · Jul 25, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59

Lawl wut? Dolyak and Physical resistence? That's just 100% overkill. There not aatxes and you are not a caster. You NEVER needed to overload on the armour buffs at all

Hell the W/Me STILL works (I have no clue why the clueless are preaching that it was nerfed, 'WY' wasn't really needed much except to cover HS and even then the damage was easily mitigated with shield and knights). I've done lots of runs after the armour nerf with the W/Me (I use knights so I mainly get 0 damage) so anyone saying otherwise is wrong.

dies like fish · Jul 25, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

[skill]Sprint[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Galrath Slash[/skill][skill]Standing Slash[/skill][skill]Hundred Blades[/skill]

I see no Physical Resistance in that build.

zomga48 · Jul 25, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24

thanx for the info, i tried the original build and i died, too many spiders started attacking me and even with whirlwind and 100blades i coulndt interupt all their damn healing springs. i didnt think of phys resist as a counter for healing sig thanx for info. also ill try knights insignia instead of stalwart. the more builds posted the better ill try anything

r3dsk4r3 · Jul 25, 2007, 08:22 AM // 08:22

Try switching to W/A and using some of the halves damage skills, or using some warrior stances which have a block percentage. Anything you can do to reduce the total amount of damage should increase your survivability. Im not familiar with the run in question, but this works with post-update tanking so it should be of some help to you.

blue.rellik · Jul 25, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by dies like fish

[skill]Sprint[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Galrath Slash[/skill][skill]Standing Slash[/skill][skill]Hundred Blades[/skill]

I see no Physical Resistance in that build.

It's good to see your eyesight still working then

6am3 Fana71c · Jul 25, 2007, 11:49 AM // 11:49

This spot is easier when you farm it using dervish, getting to the cave is a piece of pie thanks to Vow of Silence, but you gotta be carefull when killing spiders, only lure group of 3 and pack them so they are one next to other. BTW with only slight modifications that same build can farm FoW forest too, even safer and easier then ranger build.

zomga48 · Jul 25, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

well thanx for all the replies i finally realized all the armor is to negate the spiders damage down to 0 and only having to heal because of poison. i have heard of dervishes farming here because of the scythe's ability to hit several targets = no healing spring. however, id really like to farm it on my warrior, i suppose i could try splitting my points like so: 12 scythe, 12 strength, 3 earth prayers. i havent given it a lot of thot but maybe just like dolyak, flail, mystic regen, some attacks and a couple other enchants such as vital boon and other easily maintained enchants. i have no problems getting there with any of the builds ive tried, dryders and driftwoods drop very fast but the problem is that im getting overwhelmed by the spiders when i get there. I suppose this could be on part of my own stupidity not using knights insignia or a sup. absorption which i think would solve my problem because i mainly die from taking 20 or so 6-8dmgs at a time. game fanatic, not trying to pick on u but dervishes and warriors both have adequate speed boost skills to break skale aggro, no need to waste ur elite just because of a few seconds of heavy degen.

zomga48 · Jul 25, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

ah i forgot to post the build i was going to try:

12+1+3 axe
12 prot
3+1 strength
sprint
balthazars spirit
shield of regeneration(e)
shielding hands
bonettis defense
flail
whirlwind attack
cyclone axe

this build would utilize the ability to reduce the damage of the spiders to 0 and provide a high level of survivability(at the cost of an elite) and the aoe capabilities of the axe. i think this would work well, even better if i could find a replacement for shield of regen so i could use triple chop for even more aoe agony(hooray rhyming...sorta)

what do u guys think? and dont bother me with all the crap about doubters dryders i just dont use enchants till i get to the spiders, snarling driftwoods i just use sor if i even need it and bonettis to get back the energy from them

no damage tank · Jul 26, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

dryders would strip u dry, otherwise it looks kinda good, but that wud take up quite a bit of energy wouldnt it?

blue.rellik · Jul 26, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

Looks like a modified former W/Mo IDS farmer. I can see it working since you'll have no problems once you reach the spiders

zomga48 · Jul 26, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Great news guys, my build works! As for the dryders, I don't even use balthazar's spirit until i get to the spider cave and I am never stuck fighting dryders and snarling driftwoods at the same time on my way there.

My run last night got me to the spider cave with ease, I killed the first 2 dryders in front but the spiders started dropping down before i could get the last one. I killed 5 or so spiders, carefully timing my aoe attacks to interupt healing springs, when i ran into the next group of spiders and accidently aggroed the 3rd dryder, stripping my enchants and the spiders pwned me. I guess the secret is jsut to be careful because it worked great until i aggroed the 3rd dryder. Also, I didnt even have knights insignia on my armor or a superior absorption which would reduce the damage by 6, maybe even enough to where I dont need shielding hands. Today I'll get those insignias and rune and see how it works out.

DokkyDok · Jul 27, 2007, 01:37 AM // 01:37

No need for any complications when an easy build exists. I used to use this, back when there was profit, and it does work with the armor cap.

[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Silverwing Slash[/skill][skill]Galrath Slash[/skill][skill]Standing Slash[/skill][skill]Sun And Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Physical Resistance[/skill][skill]Sprint[/skill]

12 + 1 + 3 Swordsmanship
10 + 1 Tactics
8 + 1 Strength

You'll want to use a "In Stance" or "Against Physical" Insignia all through your armor. Use a "Against Piercing" shield. + 2 in stance is a nice added bonus.
Get a +7 against physical mod on your sword. With the proper insignias and shield, you do not need "Watch Yourself!"

Being · Jul 27, 2007, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Well i use:

Full Knights insignia. -2Dmg Stance Sheild. Mainly Zealous Sword/Axe
Sword/Axe - Whatever you like
Tactics - 11 or 12
Strength - 11 or 12
Insperation Magic - 4

1. Sprint
2. Healing Signet (For running past skales ect. You dont use this when fighting)
3. Lion's Comfort (Use it everytime your about to use 100Blades or Triple chop. You will start a patern

)
4. Whirlwind Attack
5. Hundred Blades [E] Or Triple Chop [E]
6. Free Slot (mainly an attack skill of your choice, like Sun&Moon Slash, Executioner's Strike)
7. "For Great Justice!"

(Use it for when you need adrenaline for Lions Comfort or to spam your attack skills)
8. Physical Resistance
It's a really simple/easy build and works.

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Hope this helps.

sethyp · Jul 28, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

retribution/holy wrath farming build works- if you fancy something different.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10168983

skill image has disappeared- its holy wrath, retribution, auspicious parry, riposte, lions comfort, sprint, healing signet and jahenzus strike (or whatever you want).

attributes: 13 tactics (+1 rune), 11 sword(+3), 10 strength (+1 helm,+1rune), 6 smiting

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