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sethyp · Aug 06, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

eviscerate is a lovely skill- taken with agonizing chop,disrupting chop and critical chop- your a high damage mellee interupter. =). useing flail too oc.

-arch

Mouse at Large · Aug 06, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

Nearby? Your warrior must have a hell of a long reach. Cyclone is adjacent too, btw...

I want my warrior to have extended arms

A Leprechaun · Aug 07, 2007, 08:52 AM // 08:52

telescopic ^^

~A Leprechaun~

jrk247 · Aug 07, 2007, 11:12 AM // 11:12

I used to worship Eviscerate until it got the damage nerf which made it a weak Executioner's + Dismember. For PvE (atleast NM) I prefer Trip Chop if used with the correct skills it can be an endless spam of high damage skills.

Trip Chop + Flail + Dismember + Executioner's + Trip Chop + (repeat). Almost an endless spam of high damage skills. And the good thing about Trip Chop is that you don't have to wait to charge it up with adrenaline and you can spam it more often.

Div · Aug 07, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

I thought everyone knew Triple chop was best for PvE?

Dragon slash dps is much higher than your little triple chop combo. Plus it allows for more energy to spam stuff like power attack!

Triple slash is for people who don't know how to use adrenaline attacks correctly so they need a mini-AoE attack. It's kinda like why every other PvE ranger is a barrage ranger back in prophecies

jrk247 · Aug 07, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Dragon slash dps is much higher than your little triple chop combo. Plus it allows for more energy to spam stuff like power attack!

Triple slash is for people who don't know how to use adrenaline attacks correctly so they need a mini-AoE attack. It's kinda like why every other PvE ranger is a barrage ranger back in prophecies

Nah I've played a Dragon Slash build before and it was about the same damage with the Trip Chop build I run except you had to build up adrenaline to do more DPS but w/e I really don't care. The Trip Chop build is good because you don't have to build up huge amounts of adrenaline to start doing damage and not to mention the AoE of it allows you to get adrenaline more frequent to spam the other attacks.

Div · Aug 08, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34

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Originally Posted by jrk247

Nah I've played a Dragon Slash build before and it was about the same damage with the Trip Chop build I run except you had to build up adrenaline to do more DPS but w/e I really don't care. The Trip Chop build is good because you don't have to build up huge amounts of adrenaline to start doing damage and not to mention the AoE of it allows you to get adrenaline more frequent to spam the other attacks.

Wow, can't deal with typos? I'm not going to bother arguing this since it's PvE and you can pretty much get away with anything.

Cathode_Reborn · Aug 08, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

It's been a while since I've used an axe in pve but next time I do, I'm not sure if I'll use Evis. It's a good skill, but the enemies in pve are sometimes too minor to be worth using it on because of it's slightly-high adren cost. I don't have too much to say about it atm.

Triple Chop, I'm not to sure about either....I don't like it's 10 sec recharge - with IAS, Eviscerate can be charged up faster than that....the point of having a melee damage class in the party is for dealing sustained high damage against single targets....if your team wants aoe damage get an ele or necro instead. Cyclone axe has a much faster recharge, has 30+less damage but it's non elite which is big. Whirling axe is interesting....because it's 2 adren cost will make it hard to charge up other adren skills, it'd help to bring something like Power attack with high strength....an ias + zealous weapon can help out with that.

karunpav · Aug 08, 2007, 05:10 AM // 05:10

[skill]Cleave[/skill] [skill]Dismember[/skill] [skill]Agonizing Chop[/skill] [skill]Cyclone Axe[/skill] [skill]Flail[/skill] [skill]Enraging Charge[/skill] [skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] [skill]Sunspear Rebirth Signet[/skill]

That's basically the only build I use when I run axes in PvE (outside of HM, of course).

jrk247 · Aug 08, 2007, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Whirling Axe is a waste of an elite. It's a main battle between Eviscerate and Trip Chop (and maybe Cleave), if you need to focus on taking down one foe at a time than I'd suggest Evis but if you are just trying to kill the mob I'd suggest Trip Chop. Haven't really done much HM with my warrior so I can't comment on how it works there but I'd think Eviscerate would work best in HM.

jesh · Aug 08, 2007, 09:19 AM // 09:19

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Dragon slash dps is much higher than your little triple chop combo. Plus it allows for more energy to spam stuff like power attack!

You use both cyclone and Triple Chop.. between those 2 attacks, you have enough to hit exec and dismember, then charge adrenaline with your 2 aoe attacks and repeat. A Triple Chop build by itself may not out damage Dragon Slash, but it sure does with Splinter Weapon added in.
IMO, even SF doesn't compete with the large amounts of armor ignoring aoe and deep wound spamming that a Triple Chop build can put out.
Now if you put the new whirlwind attack skill into your DS build with Splinter Weapon, then we might have a winner. The Triple Chop version will still have higher amounts of deep wound spam and can work on unbleedable mobs.

Reading this thread gave me an idea though. I agree that under normal circumstance that Whirling Axe is retarded. The major reason being that spamming it causes all your other adrenal skills to become less useful.
I was thinking you could still get some decent (maybe even good) damage by using Power Attack and Whirling Axe only.. hit Dismember when you can. It might be wise to make sure that Cyclone and a skill like For Great Justice! are in there to come up with a decent amount of deep wounds.
It'd be interesting to see what kind of dps a build like that could put out.

B E A S T · Aug 08, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by Ensign

You aren't using Dragon Slash because...

Because this thread is about PvE axe elites...

farmpig · Aug 09, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Its true to say that in pve monsters die too fast. So if eviscerate does not charge up in time for the 1st monster use it on the monster adjacent to it.

6am3 Fana71c · Aug 09, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

Decapitate is srsly under-rated. Yeah maybe it isn't best, but who cares. It's fun. That's what PvE is all about. And btw, I mostly use Steady Stance / Drunken Blow / Desperation Blow. It's better then most of this.