Curse

Age · Aug 03, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

You do in HM if you're fighting two monks. DPS isn't as good in HM as in NM since most monsters have way more life and armour and the monks there heal for insane amounts.

Dragon Slash is good but isn't as great anymore since a DSlash build is typically about DPS which is easily mitigated in PvP. It roxors really hard in PvE though so I guess what I said is a moot point

I forgot about the two hammer elites, silly me since I do enjoy running a hammer in most places in PvE. I said Eviscerate is the best warrior elite since it's the easiest to put a deep wound with and a bunch of damage, it's also a powerful spike as well which makes it even better in PvP.

This is new to me about dragon slash in pvp what about crippling slash.I still say Dragon Slash is the best sword elite in the game.

Age · Aug 03, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue.rellik

You do in HM if you're fighting two monks. DPS isn't as good in HM as in NM since most monsters have way more life and armour and the monks there heal for insane amounts.

Dragon Slash is good but isn't as great anymore since a DSlash build is typically about DPS which is easily mitigated in PvP. It roxors really hard in PvE though so I guess what I said is a moot point

I forgot about the two hammer elites, silly me since I do enjoy running a hammer in most places in PvE. I said Eviscerate is the best warrior elite since it's the easiest to put a deep wound with and a bunch of damage, it's also a powerful spike as well which makes it even better in PvP.

This is new to me about dragon slash in pvp what about crippling slash.I still say Dragon Slash is the best sword elite in the game.

blue.rellik · Aug 04, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48

I'm not saying it's good but most kills in PvP is from spiking. DSlash doesn't spike

Stormlord Alex · Aug 04, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

I'm not saying it's good but most kills in PvP is from spiking. DSlash doesn't spike

Oh, I do feel this is a touch off-topic... Whatever.
Tbh... I wouldn't run D-Slash in PvP atm, anyways - there's far too much melee hate going around - SoD, B-Surge, Aegis, Hexes - to rely on D-Slash.

Age · Aug 04, 2007, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

I'm not saying it's good but most kills in PvP is from spiking. DSlash doesn't spike

Swords cause pressure not spike so it would be really good at pressure builds.Go read what Ensign said about DS in the Eviscerate theory thread

blue.rellik · Aug 05, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

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Originally Posted by Age

Swords cause pressure not spike so it would be really good at pressure builds.Go read what Ensign said about DS in the Eviscerate theory thread

And personally I think cripslash is better pressure

Darkpower Alchemist · Aug 05, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38

You're leaving the topic abit, but to clear it up some, D Slash and Eviscerate do nearly the same damage until the DW is calculated.

As for The Axe Warrior of the furture- he will look like the axe warrior of the past for now. Eviscerate, as stated by most, is by far the skill to beat when causing major damage with an axe. Agonizing Chop is a personal favorite of mine, seeing how you can make a major chain with a 4 attack combo, 2 being interupts at least, and all can be adrenaline.

[skill=card]Eviscerate[/skill]+[skill=card]Executioner's Strike[/skill]+[skill=card]Disrupting Chop[/skill]+[skill=card]Agonizing Chop[/skill] The spike already occuring with the first 2 attacks, leaving the subsquent interupts to stop any self healing.

[skill=card]Eviscerate[/skill]+[skill=card]Executioner's Strike[/skill]+[skill=card]Disrupting Chop[/skill]+[skill=card]Critical Chop[/skill] gives an alternative that is equally as effective.

[skill=card]Eviscerate[/skill]+[skill=card]Executioner's Strike[/skill]+[skill=card]Distracting Blow[/skill]+[skill=card]Critical Chop[/skill] Speed over power in this scenario, but the interchangeable uses of the Eviscerate/Executioner's Combo is just too consistant and powerful to be passed up for [skill=card]"Charge!"[/skill] from a damage dealing standpoint. Also, the use of dismember is viable, but would in all honesty, slow the spike down considerably. Yet, as mentioned previously, spiking isn't needed in normal mode for the most part.

Faer · Aug 05, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Devona uses an axe now?

Age · Aug 05, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Faer

Devona uses an axe now?

I thought she used swords as well.

fuzzybulldozer · Aug 05, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

You're wrong, eviscerate is an excellent skill and dismember is a waste of a slot. Anyone with a brain already knows this.

TheOneMephisto · Aug 05, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Dismember is a perfectly viable alternative if you have a really good reason for wanting another elite. Example: Shadow Prison spikes (see eurospike meta), YAA axes. However, charge is not a good enough elite to warrant this currently.

Basically, if you don't take eviscerate then you almost have to go dismember->executioner's->agonizing, which is just about as powerful but slightly slower. That's either a loss of bar compression (3 spiking skills vs 2), or a loss of damage if the alternative is running evis->exe->agonizing. So basically, you have to make some major sacrifices if you want to take another elite.

BTW, back in the eurospike metas and YAA axes, crit chop was actually used, but since agonizing is basically crit chop, yea.

farmpig · Aug 09, 2007, 11:08 AM // 11:08

Eviscerate a waste of space ??? lol I see no point in echoing pro eviscerate comments.

Mekkakat · Aug 11, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

wow, some of you need to relax. evis is ONE of the best elites (axe wise and overall wise) a warrior has to offer, but in PVE -note... pve-, its not lal the absurd to let it go for something far more consistent. cleave is great constant pressure, triple chop is also great for adren building+damage. hell, you can spec an axe and run around shouting you're all alone for all i care...

unless he's talking about HM, evis isnt a MUST in pve, but DEFFINITLY, (not bashing the OP) is nothing to be scoffed at.

also, to Age:

swords ARE the pressure part of warrior mastery (if you dont consider hammer kds utility pressure.. cause.. thats better lol... ) but..

while i disagree about Dslashes leetness in all situations, spiking tools are often overlooked for swordies. try a basic sev, gash, standing, final build, and watch even the highest als fall in those 4 hits.

rage of the ntouka
tiger stance
sev
gash
standing
final
lions comfyness
res
whatever
whatever
whatever
30 skill slots and options later..

its fun, people hate RotN i know, i think its hilarious and fun lmao..

anyhow..

to the OP again

the best thing i can say about your BUILD, is do what works for YOU man, dont worry about anything anyone else says, just have fun playing the game. if you want advice.. thats a different story.. and im sure you've seen some of the post lol..