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Old Sep 17, 2007, 03:23 AM // 03:23   #1
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I'm referring to shields.

I've got my eye on two shields, their stats are the same, but the req. are different, depending on my strategy.

9 Tactics / 9 Strength

Dmg -2 received while in a stance
Health +45 while in a stance

and

Dmg -2 while in a stance
Health +30 (always)

The -2 while in a stance is my favorite modifier for shields [%'s aren't my idea of efficient] I've got my eye on some unique Green Shields that have these properties and I'm wondering

Which do you like, +45 in stance, or +30 always? And which shields would be easier to acquire/farm? (you can like one shield but say the other is easier to farm, etc.)

I'm thinking the same for axes:

I have Chor's Axe, the only elemental unique axe
I have the Dragoncrest axe as my prize from Factions [though I couldn't think of anything better]
working on Wing's Axe, the only Zealous unique axe I'm aware of ;_;
Want to get a Vampiric axe from Razorfin Fleshrend [right outside an outpost, should be an easy farm]

Any bits of advice?
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Old Sep 17, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54   #2
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For health mods, a constant +30 health shield is better IMO. Not that it matters much for PvE, but when you're getting hounded by a Wild Blow derv or somesuch in PvP, or Rush just starts flashing... that 45hp loss can be pretty ouch.

Tbh, it really isn't too hard to get hold of either shield. 45/-2 are available easily at Prophecies collectors, and I believe there's a few greens with 30/-2.

I'm sure you can find a way to farm Strongroot for his shield, as for Tactics req... the only green is Havok's Shield... As well as a flux of craptacular -5/20% and -2 enchanted It's almost is if they make greens to appease wammos... just look at all the sundering crap

On axes, as well as Wing's... the Kinslayer axe is zealous, too, if you prefer the skin.
And I'd prefer Shon's Reaver as you can run a Conjure on Fiery.
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Old Sep 17, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38   #3
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Personally, being a PvE guy, I'd run with the -2/+45. Flail just owns too much to let it down, so you may as well take the extra 15 health.

In PvP though, I'd probably swap to the unconditional for some better spike protection - You're either in frenzy, in which case you're stuffed anyway, or in a cancel stance, which you wouldn't keep up all the time just to satisfy an extra 15 health.
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Old Sep 17, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14   #4
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The two shields I use are a +30/-2 Stance (Victo's) and a +60/-3 hexed (I'm nearly always in a stance and switch when I get hexed). There's probably better choices but it's worked well for me so far.
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Old Sep 17, 2007, 11:39 AM // 11:39   #5
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I am lazy to weapon switch so i guess i will be sticking with the good ole +30-2 stance.
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Old Sep 17, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11   #6
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Serrated_Shield

Get the GOTY edition. The Serrated Shield has a really nice skin and the requested stats:

r9 Tactics
-2 Stance
+30 HP

I suggest it for Warrior Heroes. An alternative are Adamantine Shields, r9 Tactics, -5/20 +30 HP, for 5 Margonite Masks.
It is much harder to get good collector strength shields.


Anyways, for yourself you should try to get a collection of

+10 vs slashing, +10 vs piercing, +10 vs Cold (for the Far Shiverpeaks) and +10 vs Fire shields. Not really cheap to get, but +10 vs damage type is very useful.
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Old Sep 17, 2007, 12:12 PM // 12:12   #7
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Yeah, +30hp is what I use. I use a +60hp(while hexed) now and again, in hex heavy areas, but I have had that -60 out-of-hex spike before and its not pleasant.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 05:18 AM // 05:18   #8
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How often do you intend to be in stance? If you're in stance more often then not, why not take an extra +15hp?

As for easier to get? Just get any inscribable shield and then get the mods for it. You're guaranteed to find the +30 almost anywhere, anytime. As for the stance stuff, may be harder to find but it's pretty cheap when you do. Or you could just buy victo's, it's dirt cheap these days, or go collector's for the -2/+45. Wasn't there one for frosted griffon wings right outside rankor?
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Old Sep 19, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19   #9
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Getting inscribable shields and then mods takes 3x the effort of just farming one rare in my opinion. I don't have time to stand around hoping to get the shield I want. That and I'm just unlucky finding sellers...

Only rare shield I found was Tanzinth's defender and upon closer inspection and usage, it's hero fodder shield for me.

Also, I have the tactics collector's shield that's -2/+45hp stanced and a strength based forgotten shield from nightfall endgame with +10 AL vs. earth [which rocks in pvp since like any melee type is fighting me using earth weaps for some reason and skills like aftershock + eruption have a lesser impact... ]

I'm starting to lean towards the -2/+30 shields now. Not only do their rare-skins look awesome [go me and my pickyness] but foes in hard mode as well as DP are REALLY starting to gouge at my deaths count...
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