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Baze · Nov 22, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22

ok i've been all through the forums and have not found one decent prophecies only build for UW? why? is it that because the skills in prophecies aren't enough to conquer UW? ppl at the temple demand an obsidian or ursan warrior. Is there any prophecies only obsidian or other tanking warrior builds for UW around? Plz post them here or provide a link. Weapons and equipment required would also help.

Abedeus · Nov 22, 2007, 05:41 PM // 17:41

There are no solo UW builds for proph-only wars and there are no tank builds proph-only. If there are, I bet nobody will take you into a team.

The other day maybe there were 150+ armor builds, but armor stacking was nerfed.

ShadowofWar · Nov 22, 2007, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Any basic good team can conquer the underworld, just need the right team.
First off a key to any successful party is a good tank or two which can both take and deal massive damage. a couple of mid-liners, usually casters such as mesmers and nukers, and rangers (usually 3-5 mid-liners depending on the type of party. Finally the most important part to any successful team the back-liners which consist of most often monks or paragons, who heal and protect the team.

Feathermoore Rep · Nov 23, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35

You just have the to find the right group of people to play with. The UW really isnt that hard and obsidan and ursan warriors arent the only options. Its just that people think if the warrior runs this he wont get the whole team killed easily, if he doesnt know what hes doing. As long as you are competent about your aggro and how you pull groups you could clear uw with proph only skills. However you need a decent balanced group of real people to do so.

As well you can easily clear UW without a warrior on the team at all. But since you want to clear it with your warrior, you'll definately need some form of damage mitigation, most likely in the form of a stance, since you'll right at the front taking on the cows(aataxes) and all the other creatures in the uw. This is really your main problem since the point of obflesh is higher armor and spell protection, which is why people bring it. I don't play warrior personally, so look at the all the prophecies skills and try out builds you think might work in hard mode on monsters in a normal zone, if you can pretty much live forever with H/H in HM you should be good enough for UW.

Oh. Immeadiately omit all wammo builds that may come to mind as enchant shatter is prevalent in the UW.

Suicidal Eddy · Nov 23, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08

My friend, i can help you. Me and my buddy usually start out 5 man FOW groups and he tanks with proph-only skills. --

Warrior/Monk
Strength: 10-14
Tactics: 10-14
Healing: 11

I Will Survive!
Balanced Stance
Dolyak Signet
Endure Pain
Healing Hands [elite]
Healing Breeze
Balthazar’s Spirit
Mending

Equipment: Crimson Carapace Shield and a +5 energy wand

Thanks to cswella for the build. Might need some br or bip tho :/.

ghostlyfenix · Nov 24, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by Suicidal Eddy

My friend, i can help you. Me and my buddy usually start out 5 man FOW groups and he tanks with proph-only skills. --

Warrior/Monk
Strength: 10-14
Tactics: 10-14
Healing: 11

I Will Survive!
Balanced Stance
Dolyak Signet
Endure Pain
Healing Hands [elite]
Healing Breeze
Balthazar’s Spirit
Mending

Equipment: Crimson Carapace Shield and a +5 energy wand

Thanks to cswella for the build. Might need some br or bip tho :/.

thats possibly the worst build u can have in fow.... shadow mes can strp you / forest has nature renewal / skales can rend.. and more.worse build i imagine, and this is about UW not FOW, and ur not even using a +20% ench weapon, u complete failure, so is ur friend

Abedeus · Nov 24, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50

And in UW that's bad - Lingering Curse, Rend Enchantment, Shatter Enchantment, Maelstrom, Meteor Shower + Mark of Rodgort... I dare to say that in UW it's even worse than in FoW.

ghostlyfenix · Nov 24, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

just cap ob flesh and learn armor of earth thats about all the tank skills u need in Uw + some others , dolyak sig , grasping earth etc and other buffs, below, u still dont get it!!!1 its UW not fow

Suicidal Eddy · Nov 24, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Meh, i thought it might have worked in UW cause we usually clear most of FOW with that build. Sorry i tried to help, it won't happen again.

cellardweller · Nov 24, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

[skill]"Watch yourself!"[/skill]
Now you're a tank and you can take 7 good skills instead of wasting 3/4 your bar on unecissary defensive. Chances are that any group asking for an obsidian tank for UW is a group you don't want to be in.

The · Nov 25, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Suicidal Eddy

Meh, i thought it might have worked in UW cause we usually clear most of FOW with that build. Sorry i tried to help, it won't happen again.

don't worry. Most people on here are jerks anyway and don't bother to see if build work before they say they are crap

Pyro maniac · Nov 25, 2007, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by ghostlyfenix

just cap ob flesh and learn armor of earth thats about all the tank skills u need in Uw + some others , dolyak sig , grasping earth etc and other buffs, below, u still dont get it!!!1 its UW not fow

[skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]Armor of Earth[/skill]

I guess you forgot the armor stack nerf?

Even healing hands works better then that

Holy Trinity is crap, use your warrior as damager and take some wards on midliner. Your team will be doing great then

As for the build: Eviscerate, Executionors, Watch Yourself, maybe Dolyak Signet and some help for midline in the form of Purge Conditions or Purge Signet.

Abedeus · Nov 25, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by The

don't worry. Most people on here are jerks anyway and don't bother to see if build work before they say they are crap

Making a build that is vulnerable to 75% of things in UW is like riding on a bike in NASCAR race - Sure, why not, but you'll be dead in 5-10 seconds after start. And using mending is autofail, using healing hands is autofail, using excessive attributes (10-14, 10-14, 11? what the hell?) is also autofail.

Sure, you can try using damage dealer warrior, but only with your guild/alliance. I can guarantee that nobody will take you into a pug with Eddy's build.

Btw: You're =/= your.

Pyro maniac · Nov 25, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Btw: You're =/= your.

typo lolololololol

milkflopance · Nov 25, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

[skill]"Watch yourself!"[/skill]
Now you're a tank and you can take 7 good skills instead of wasting 3/4 your bar on unecissary defensive. Chances are that any group asking for an obsidian tank for UW is a group you don't want to be in.

^ Best advice in the thread. Watch yourself is all you'll need for defence unless your team sucks. Prot monks and curse necros (With stuff like [skill]enfeebling blood[/skill] and [skill]reckless haste[/skill]) are there to protect you from the hard hitting stuff.

The · Nov 25, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

I couldnt care less about my grammar or spelling on something that isnt effected bout it, and you had a go at his build despite the fact that he said he uses it, and he didnt say it sucked.

Suicidal Eddy · Nov 25, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40

lol, abedeus, many pug's have accepted me as a bonder with my buddy tanking with this build. In fact, ive had people compliment it because they love the old style and you don't walk around like a goon with 50% slower or w.e it is. this is for a 5 man fow, btw. we've cleared pretty damned far with it, never have finished cause people always gotta go or some bs. I just thought it might of worked in UW, im not a guru on the underworld really, and he asked for a pure prophecies build, so i gave him one.

Valeria · Nov 26, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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And in UW that's bad - Lingering Curse, Rend Enchantment, Shatter Enchantment, Maelstrom, Meteor Shower + Mark of Rodgort... I dare to say that in UW it's even worse than in FoW.

shatter/rend enchantment isn't that much of a problem. Your monks probably overload the tank with enchantments so its likely healing hands an stuff will stay on you for a while. (why would moks use healing seed all the time)

but mending is about no healing at all for a tank. It will take about a minute to get your life bar half full again.

PS: [skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill] for a tank??? I think you would want an armor bonus bigger than +25.
[skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill]+[skill]dolyak signet[/skill] = [skill]dolyak signet[/skill] only! since it doesn't stack.

deluxe · Nov 26, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Valeria

shatter/rend enchantment isn't that much of a problem. Your monks probably overload the tank with enchantments so its likely healing hands an stuff will stay on you for a while. (why would moks use healing seed all the time)

but mending is about no healing at all for a tank. It will take about a minute to get your life bar half full again.

PS: [skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill] for a tank??? I think you would want an armor bonus bigger than +25.
[skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill]+[skill]dolyak signet[/skill] = [skill]dolyak signet[/skill] only! since it doesn't stack.

most of the work will be done by prot monks, its a waste of time to take dolyak signet.
damage is what you want.

wolfmane · Nov 26, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Those saying that Obsi Earth is useless are flagrantly clueless. The burning inflicted by Dryders is completely cancelled using obsi Earth, thus saving your monks a shit load of energy keeping your health up...