Curse

Dizzle Wizzle · Apr 08, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Hello, Ive been trying to find just your ordinary tank UW Build, I cant seem to figure out anything cuz everytime i go into a part, they say something like "Is this build a joke" or "This guys nuts". But anyway, I just need something to help plz, ty

Aera · Apr 08, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

I'd say go for Ursan Blessing.

Otherwise something like:

[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill][skill]Riposte[/skill][skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill] and some other fun stuff.

It's A Me · Apr 08, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

because i dont know how to put in skill icons yet all i can do is give u a link to
a general obsi tank.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Obsidian_Tank

Crom The Pale · Apr 08, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

First things first, list your current build and what chapters you have so we know your limitations.

Secondly, what works in the rest of the game works here.

Third, stick with the standards - Dragon Slash + FGJ + SaveYourselves or Evicorate+Exicutioners. If your going monk secondary take a hex removal to deal with SS and Blurred vision.

Lastly do not run an obsidian tank unless your entire party is built for it, requests it, and you know how to use it.

If all else fails ---> Ursan Blessing.

Flem · Apr 09, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

If he's asking for help with a general UW build, I'm willing to bet that he does have a high enough Ursan to be effective, if at all.

I'd def. ask my team if they are cool with you running Obs. Tank, because it rocks. If for some odd reason they don't want you too, I'd go standard stance tank with ripostes and such. Get your monk to bring P.S. and Guardian/Aegis, of course.

If you are in the party with a good Curse necro, you will def. be able to handle UW with no prob.

kel77 · Apr 09, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Flem

I'd def. ask my team if they are cool with you running Obs. Tank, because it rocks. If for some odd reason they don't want you too, I'd go standard stance tank with ripostes and such. Get your monk to bring P.S. and Guardian/Aegis, of course.

That's just pathetic man...

The Red Messenger · Apr 09, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59

My reccomendation: find a strong player within your guild/alliance to start a normal mode UW clear, and have him lead the team. Maybe do it on a weekend so you can get an all-guild/alliance member party. UW is an elite area that many people would scoff at taking a first timer, especially the tank (nothing personal, just how it is). Have them give you pointers, and take it slow.

My first time in UW i joined as a pug in a guild group, and they were awesome. Then, i failed us because i took a quest too early; i was hiding my inexperience so they didnt tell me not to take it.

Anyway, to answer your question, the warriors job in UW is not to deal damage. it is to absorb damage. Bring defensive stances, health buffs, blocking skills...anything that will help you survive.

Flem · Apr 09, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by kel77

That's just pathetic man...

How so? You hate tanks? If that's the case, welcome to GW Guru, it seems everyone on this website does. That, of course, has nothing to do with this thread. He asked a very specific question and I gave him advice on his question, not an opinion on how I think he should play the game.

kel77 · Apr 09, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

Anyway, to answer your question, the warriors job in UW is not to deal damage. it is to absorb damage. Bring defensive stances, health buffs, blocking skills...anything that will help you survive.

This is all a lie!
Do not listen to this!
A warrior should always! be doing damage

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 09, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

here's an amazing concept to obby tankers.

killing stuff tends to make you live longer with good monks on your back than trying to sit there and take 60000000 dmg on the chin.

Flem · Apr 09, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by kel77

This is all a lie!
Do not listen to this!
A warrior should always! be doing damage

LOL. Actually THAT post is a lie. There is no absolute in this game. It's very situational. Warriors can take and recieve damage well and can interchange between the two at will.

If you want to tank, go ahead.

Flem · Apr 09, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

here's an amazing concept to obby tankers.

killing stuff tends to make you live longer with good monks on your back than trying to sit there and take 60000000 dmg on the chin.

Unless your whole party wipes. Tanking is a very valid option. One person taking the entirety of the teams damage, while the other professions unload everything they got without having to be defensive or run around all the time can be very effective.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 09, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

i hurd teh edit function was gud.

also a warrior can take dmg and dish it out.

if your whole party wipes you need to look at your builds that you are using.

things dont like to target high armor in this game. so ya a warrior that takes dmg and doesn't try to survive and istead uses his monks to keep him alive>any lame obby tank pug you can find.

killing is always better than just surviving

Flem · Apr 09, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

i hurd teh edit function was gud.

also a warrior can take dmg and dish it out.

if your whole party wipes you need to look at your builds that you are using.

things dont like to target high armor in this game. so ya a warrior that takes dmg and doesn't try to survive and istead uses his monks to keep him alive>any lame obby tank pug you can find.

killing is always better than just surviving

Well, if they tank is smart they have snares that keep the enemies all huddled together just begging to be nuked to death in mere seconds.

If you so worried about making your epeen bigger instead of supporting your team and you don't care about surviving (like you just claimed), then it doesn't matter what your team build is, if your the tank...it's bound to wipe.

Tanks can still do damage as well and take damage, but it's rarely needed, since all the enemies die so fast.

Tyla · Apr 09, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Maximising damage > wasting your skill slots on selfish defense. Tanks are just bad and wasteful, especially with PSpirit around. Save Yourselves aswell.
Monks should have your back.

And the point stands, a makeshift tanker can take aggro, and if the aggro breaks? You're not closing into a party wipe unlike if aggro breaks with selfish defense.

@Celly -- Why are you suggesting Ursan and Ripostes? That's not very...you...

Guess the key word is fun on the ripostes there...

Yichi · Apr 09, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

yeah I'm not even gonna bother on telling you all the 837496834968234762346 reasons why you shouldn't tank and listening to the 1 reason flem has as to why you should being posted over and over and over and over again, when its still bad advice... so I'll suggest this for you:

Look up the W/P Dragonslash, SY build. This works very well and you're no longer being useless to your party as you would be by being an obs tank.

Dr Strangelove · Apr 09, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

W/P dragon slashers are the fastest and easiest time I've ever had in any of the elite areas. Throw splinter on their back, and things die.

I have absolutely no idea why you'd even begin to think tanking is a good idea in UW. The only thing that does significant damage is the aataxes, and they appear in very small groups. If you can't figure out a way to WEAKEN that damage, then perhaps you're BLIND.

If you're trying to get into a group, but don't know the build they're looking for, whisper someone, or ping a blank skillbar and ask what they want. A blank skillbar just means you haven't set your skills yet. Some abortion mending wammo build with power attack tells the group you're a moron.

Yichi · Apr 10, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

If you can't figure out a way to WEAKEN that damage, then perhaps you're BLIND.

I C wat joo did der.

Racthoh · Apr 10, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

If you can't figure out a way to WEAKEN that damage, then perhaps you're BLIND.

I think bringing a source of blind or weakness to deal with the only physical you have to fight in the entire Underworld is a waste of a slot. Prot Spirit > all.

Flem · Apr 10, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17

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Originally Posted by Yichi

yeah I'm not even gonna bother on telling you all the 837496834968234762346 reasons why you shouldn't tank and listening to the 1 reason flem has as to why you should being posted over and over and over and over again, when its still bad advice... so I'll suggest this for you:

Look up the W/P Dragonslash, SY build. This works very well and you're no longer being useless to your party as you would be by being an obs tank.

How is what I'm saying just 1 reason? I'm saying be versatile and consider all the options. Tanking IS a valid option.

Wouldn't it be nice if you guys just answered this guys question, instead of derailing it onto a tangent about how he should play the game? Yes, it would be.

He asked what is a better way to tank, because obviously thats what he wants to do. If you don't have any input on better ways to tank because you don't like tanking, then don't even reply in this thread. Go make your own and then tell people in that one.

P.S. to Tyla: If your team knows what they are doing aggro wont break. They will be snared and/or dead before they have time to react.