Curse

Brazilian · May 04, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Hi everyone!

This is my 1st post, I'd like to share you guys my current build and hope if anyone can help me improving (hints are really appreciated) it or showing me a more effective build. I only own Prophecies and EOTN, so keep in mind I can't go Godmode

I am willing to use any kind of weapon, not just axes.
Anyway, here is it:
[Current Build;OQYTs0IKZamUpYqQqAq4U8ZQVEA]

I'm using Sentry's Insignias and a Stonefist on hand.
Also, I'm using Minor Axe, Minor Str, Sup Vigor, Sup Absorption and Vitae runes.
Elemental (icy) 15^50 +30hp customized axe. (by the way, +30hp > +5 armor, right?)
-2 while in stance, +30hp shield
Fell free to warn me if any equipament is wrong or non optimal.

So, considering that I only have Proph and EOTN, can you guys help me finding a optimal build?

Sorry for my bad english

and hello from Brazil!

Thanks!

Edit: I forgot to mention that I don't use Drunken Master drunk...

LOTR123 · May 05, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13

Just two obvious reasons i would like to point out.

1. You don't have a single skill that will heal you

2. No resurrect

Pretty much any healing and a res will help. Also you seem to have a lot of adrenaline needy skills which can really hurt by taking a long time to build that adrenaline, and if hit with a skill that cancels energy gain

. I am sure others are able to help you with anything else.

P.S. +30 > +5 armor

Brazilian · May 05, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Should I really get a self heal? Lowering str. points to put on tactics for [healing signet] doesn't sound very exciting to me.
Thanks for the P.S. !!

Crom The Pale · May 05, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

Drunken master is not the idea IAS for a few reasons.
1) you need to be drunk for it to be max effective
2) if the stance is broken youve a very long wait for recharge.

Given your limitations on skills you should probably avoid trying for AoE dmg builds with your war. I would sugest the following changes.

replace cyclone axe with [frenzy] and penatrating blow with [Disrupting Chop] and drunken master with [sprint]

p.s. You shouldn't need a self heal, you have a monk hero for keeping you alive

zling · May 05, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

either that go use a Secondary profession, but than with only prophecies and EotN I guess Healing Signet will be your best option....
as for the build itself, with only Prophecies and EotN I think you'd be better off as a Hammer Warrior.
Earth Shaker->Crude Swing will be your basics. add another attack skill, Frenzy, Sprint, Heal Sig, Conjure Frost and Res.
dont use Sentinel as you're spreading attributes too much.

Brazilian · May 05, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

But using [Conjure Frost], being a W/E and spending points in water magic is good in first place? Or perhaps its better to go just warrior?

Edit: as for the lack of interrupt, I was "interrupting" with the KD effect of [brawling headbutt]. And I wasn't using [frenzy] because it looked very PvP. Should I [frenzy] + [rush] or [frenzy] + [sprint]?

kazjun · May 05, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

You don't need a self heal or a res if you got heroes. And if you're just in normal mode you shouldn't need a res for pve anyway. You've got a lot of adren skills as well, so maybe slot in "for great justice" to boost your adren rate instead of cyclone or penetrating. Cyclone for some light aoe damage or penetrating for a more spammable attack.

Brazilian · May 05, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Yeah, I guess ["for great justice"] can really be useful. I didn't put it because its recharge time is long.

Winterclaw · May 05, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Brazilian, as Crom said you need a better IAS. You don't really need a self-heal as a warrior so don't fret too much about having one. A res would be good if you are planning to play with other people. Finally 5 attacks is a bit much; for most warriors 3 is the norm.

LOTR123 · May 05, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

1. Frenzy makes you take too much damage which can result in your death. Tiger Stance, in my opinion would be a much better skill to use.

2. You can't rely on someone, who has at most 6-7 other people to heal, to keep you from dieing. You need a self-heal, it doesn't have to be healing signet, but you definitely need one.

3. Drunken master is still better in my opinion because it is 2 skills in one. You don't have to waste 2 slots when Drunken Master gets both.

4. I would switch Penetrating Blow to "For Great Justice". It will definitely help by reducing another high adrenaline skill and making you gain adrenaline twice as fast.

P.S. You are welcome for the P.S.

Lykan · May 05, 2008, 04:43 AM // 04:43

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Originally Posted by LOTR123

Just two obvious reasons i would like to point out.

1. You don't have a single skill that will heal you

2. No resurrect

Its pve, nm pve, not needed.

Bront · May 05, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOTR123

Just two obvious reasons i would like to point out.

1. You don't have a single skill that will heal you

2. No resurrect

Pretty much any healing and a res will help. Also you seem to have a lot of adrenaline needy skills which can really hurt by taking a long time to build that adrenaline, and if hit with a skill that cancels energy gain

. I am sure others are able to help you with anything else.

P.S. +30 > +5 armor

You can actually do fairly well without a self heal on a warrior in PvE. That's what your monks are for. You're there to do damage.

Something like Power Attack or Bull's Strike might be better than Cyclone axe if you want the extra damage and don't need the AoE damage. I usually run a warrior with 4 attacks, 3 utils, and a res, and 1 of those attacks I try to make an energy attack (5).

I'd probably drop Penetrating Attack (Brawling Headbutt is more useful), throw in For Great Justice to increase Adrenaline generation (at least as you start), and I don't think you need to combine "I Am the Strongest" with a Conjure, so I'd pick 1 or the other. I am the Strongest requires no spec, so you can go 12/12 str/weapon and it can't be stripped by enchantment removal, but Conjures could potentially be less expensive energy wise over 60 seconds. I don't think Conjures are armor ignoring though, so I am the Strongest is probably better.

Edit: Conjures are armor ignoring, so it probably depends on how much you want to spec in the conjure and if there is enchantment stripping in the area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOTR123

1. Frenzy makes you take too much damage which can result in your death. Tiger Stance, in my opinion would be a much better skill to use.

2. You can't rely on someone, who has at most 6-7 other people to heal, to keep you from dieing. You need a self-heal, it doesn't have to be healing signet, but you definitely need one.

1) Tiger's stance is factions

2) Not in PvE

Cathode_Reborn · May 05, 2008, 08:03 AM // 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOTR123

2. You can't rely on someone, who has at most 6-7 other people to heal, to keep you from dieing. You need a self-heal, it doesn't have to be healing signet, but you definitely need one.

I've done tons of Hard mode using no selfheals with heroes/henches. A well-setup team makes selfheals a waste of skillspace.

Juk3n · May 05, 2008, 11:00 AM // 11:00

enraging charge over sprint , NM enemies don't tend to kite ..at all..ever.

well thats just IMO.

A Leprechaun · May 05, 2008, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bront

I don't think Conjures are armor ignoring though, so I am the Strongest is probably better.

Conjures are armour ignoring now (yay) and "I am the strongest!" cannot be kept up all the time, out of the two Conjure is better (imo) unless of course there is some enchantment stripping being thrown about.

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Originally Posted by Juk3n

enraging charge over sprint , NM enemies don't tend to kite ..at all..ever.

Enraging charge is good, but Sprint was suggested as a cancel stance for Frenzy and it has a shorter recharge making it better for the job than Enraging.

Anyway, I cant see anything drastically wrong with your build, looks pretty solid. With a few minor tweaks you could change it to this, but there is not much difference, your looks ok.

[eviscerate][executioner's strike][brawling headbutt][cyclone axe]["FGJ!"][drunken master][conjure frost][res sig]

Thats mostly just moving the skills around into the template I use, but there are a few changes.
I think yours is pretty good for just the two campaigns.

~A Leprechaun~

Tyla · May 05, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

IAS...check...
Deep Wound...check...

Switch Penetrating Blow for "For Great Justice!", and "I Am The Strongest!" for Resurrection Signet.

natural sugar · May 05, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juk3n

enraging charge over sprint , NM enemies don't tend to kite ..at all..ever.

well thats just IMO.

[Enraging Charge] is NF, so that won't work.

Quote:

2. You can't rely on someone, who has at most 6-7 other people to heal, to keep you from dieing. You need a self-heal, it doesn't have to be healing signet, but you definitely need one.

4. I would switch Penetrating Blow to "For Great Justice". It will definitely help by reducing another high adrenaline skill and making you gain adrenaline twice as fast.

Adding [Healing Signet] or any other self-heal isn't worth it, especially considering that you're already speccing into three attributes for the conjure. Other than that, you really should add [For Great Justice] and I would personally also replace [I am the strongest] with a rez or different PvE skill.

bog boy · May 05, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

will probs get flamed for this but why not ursan?:P

Squishy ftw · May 05, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by bog boy

will probs get flamed for this but why not ursan?:P

because a good warrior > ursan.

LOTR123 · May 05, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

I've done tons of Hard mode using no selfheals with heroes/henches. A well-setup team makes selfheals a waste of skillspace.

You probably have 2-3 monks with you which is why you don't self heal.

A self-heal is a good choice for any occasions where your monks are dead or they are low on energy