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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31   #1
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Default Is 15/-5nrg mods even viable on a warrior?

so yea... if so what class should u use it with? seems that a mo is out of the question, due to high healing cost, same with N...
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36   #2
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A. It's just a crap mod.
B. If anything, it does the least harm for a Warrior, who mainly uses adrenaline instead of energy.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37   #3
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but it would mean that most of the good skills form secondaries are gone
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42   #4
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It's alright if you've not got a 15^50, but if you replace it with a 15^50 mod as soon as you can because it's far superior.

Although, it's good on casters when you're against a high energy denial area then switch to a higher energy set straight after.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45   #5
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i would but i just ided this q9 15/-5 tyrian chaos axe. bought it offa some dude unid, after he said he got it form the z chest. paid 2e for it...
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47   #6
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Since this is the PvE forum I'll categorically state it's a trash mod. Exception would be negative energy set for use with Rebirth.

In PvP it's not only got its uses but is actually superior to any other inherent mod for a warrior in many cases, plus it's an integral part in a negative energy set.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54   #7
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In PvP it's not only got its uses but is actually superior to any other inherent mod for a warrior in many cases, plus it's an integral part in a negative energy set.
Don't tell me this is superior to 15^50 in PvP. 15^50 is basically flawless in it's potential compared, because you don't lose energy for those extra Shocks or whatever and if you're below 50% health you're either going to get killed or healed regardless of the situation.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15   #8
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A 15 -5 is optimal for a battle rage warrior. And those are pretty good but lack IAS. Nonetheless, they are fun to play and can even maintain 2 enchants (ex. succor on monks, holy veil) for a whole game providing that they don't get stripped.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16   #9
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You should never buy unid off people for that much. If it were from a Zchest, it would have a 99% chance to be inscribable, and would sell for more.

Anyways, you got more than you paid for neways. Although it is undesirable for most people, it is perfect, can sell, and good for adrenaline builds.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #10
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Show me a warrior bar that doesn't have an energy skill and I'll show you a bad warrior bar.....
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #11
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In PvP it's not only got its uses but is actually superior to any other inherent mod for a warrior in many cases, plus it's an integral part in a negative energy set.
Please tell me you're joking ... -5 energy is probably the worst condition for a warrior. In PvP, 15>50 (or 15 while in stance) is the way to go. 15>50 being your main, 15 while in stance in odd situations, like for example lord ganks, where every drop of damage counts and heals are rather rare.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #12
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15/-5 are fine for many warrior bars.
i use multiple energy skills on my warrior, who is running survivor's and radiants (25 total energy -5, so 20 with a 15/-5). Energy can still be mainained easily.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06   #13
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Don't tell me this is superior to 15^50 in PvP. 15^50 is basically flawless in it's potential compared, because you don't lose energy for those extra Shocks or whatever and if you're below 50% health you're either going to get killed or healed regardless of the situation.
Not all builds require all that extra energy. However, the mod should obviously not be used on any character that is running with a rune of attunement or a single radiant insignia.

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12   #14
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15/-5 are fine for many warrior bars.
i use multiple energy skills on my warrior, who is running survivor's and radiants (25 total energy -5, so 20 with a 15/-5). Energy can still be mainained easily.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22   #15
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Since this is the PvE forum I'll categorically state it's a trash mod. Exception would be negative energy set for use with Rebirth.

In PvP it's not only got its uses but is actually superior to any other inherent mod for a warrior in many cases, plus it's an integral part in a negative energy set.
Don't talk about things you don't know about. You look like a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing asshat.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38   #16
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15-5 i find useful in pvp for hiding energy.

However, on a warrior the only time i can concieve of it being useful is for use with [Decapitate]. But then, 99.9% of builds with Decapitate suck, and the other .1% arent good, that comes around to 15-5 sucks 99.9% of the time, and isnt good .1% of the time.

Still, if you have it and like the skin use it until you're energy hits <5 and swap to a 15>50 until you have >5 energy and you dont need the extra energy, and swap back.

Also, if the chaos axe dropped from the Z-Chest it should be inscribable. If it didnt then the guy scammed you.
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17   #17
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Not on a Shock axe, or hammer warrior, maybe sword? I wouldnt know since i never use sword...
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51   #18
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15/-5 is the mod of choice for pve sword warriors.
Standard God Mode warrior has [enduring harmony] 5e + [enraging charge] 5e + 5e[for great justice] = 15e... What did you need that extra 5e for besides taking extra damage from roaring ethers?

ES Hammer warrior has crude swing and axes have tripple/cyclone so you definitely 15^50 for those.
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28   #19
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Why give up 5 energy if you have a monk or two that actually know how to prot and heal? Since you are a warrior, you really should either be above 50%or in a stance virtually all of the time making this mod useless in general circumstances.


Alex, you are wasting those radiants on your warrior. More energy is not energy management. Drop the mod for something better and swap out your insignias.
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58   #20
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Its kinda pointless on any class really...

If your HP is below 50% then your either just about to get healled or just about to die, so a 15^50 mod is still the best way to go.
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