Curse

Crom The Pale · Aug 08, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47

Now that they changed a few Elites to make them more usable lets create a few builds to play with.

[defy pain] - hard to justify this in most bars but could this be a good skill to give a hero war that wont get the most out of most attack elites?

[battle rage] - now that you don't lose all adren anymore you can run this 100% of the time for double adren...should be more than a few good builds that this can power...loss of IAS still hurts it though.

[warriors endurance] - no longer a stance! War/Dervish must love this now, though even a straight Warrior can get some use out of this and the much underused [power attack]

[quivering blade] - Now wars can inflict dazed vs moving foes! I see some possible uses...[sprint][quivering blade][bulls strike]....given its conditional nature is the duration long enough?

So lets put these skills to the test!
Are they workable now?
Will you use them?

Runes2713 · Aug 08, 2008, 02:54 AM // 02:54

[Defy Pain] may finally become a useful elite and make the warrior class the true tank that warriors should be, although it provides nowhere close to the amount of tankage that [Obsidian Flesh] does, which is an ele skill (and should be a warrior skill IMO).

[Battle Rage] is nicER than it was before. I used this is a condition spam type build, and now I dont have to worry about losing adren when refreshing the stance. Plus, this skill will go VERY WELL with [Bull's Strike], even though it would end the stance.

[Quivering Blade] will find its use for sure, as finally we warriors get a daze.

I was working on a [Warrior's Endurance] build just now, because it provides almost infinite energy to work with. It will go great with [Flail] or [Frenzy].

Arkantos · Aug 08, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

[Warriors Endurance][Flail][Power Attack][Mystic Sweep][Eremites Attack][Pious Assault][Chilling Victory][Resurrection Signet]

Haven't tested it out yet, but spamming scythe/melee attacks with strength bonus (which does add up over time) does seem like big damage.

njaguar · Aug 08, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

[Warriors Endurance][Flail][Power Attack][Mystic Sweep][Eremites Attack][Pious Assault][Chilling Victory][Resurrection Signet]

Haven't tested it out yet, but spamming scythe/melee attacks with strength bonus (which does add up over time) does seem like big damage.

Remove one useless attack skill and replace it with Rush, and replace Flail with Frenzy... that's what some of the rank 50 Guilds were running this evening.

Arkantos · Aug 08, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

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Originally Posted by njaguar

Remove one useless attack skill and replace it with Rush, and replace Flail with Frenzy... that's what some of the rank 50 Guilds were running this evening.

Talking about PvE.

Magikarp · Aug 08, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

[Warriors Endurance][Flail][Power Attack][Mystic Sweep][Eremites Attack][Pious Assault][Chilling Victory][Resurrection Signet]

Haven't tested it out yet, but spamming scythe/melee attacks with strength bonus (which does add up over time) does seem like big damage.

more like

endurance
pious
disrupting
erms
frenzy
rush
bulls
res (in pvp)

and replace frenzy for flail, and maybe bulls for body blow in pve.

Cherng Butter · Aug 08, 2008, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Talking about PvE.

Isn't Aura of Holy Might too good to pass up in PvE on a W/D Dervish?

Winterclaw · Aug 08, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24

Warrior's endurance would also be good for W/As using daggers, not sure why a warrior would want to use a dagger though.

Ark, your build is missing Victorious Sweep.

Cherng Butter · Aug 08, 2008, 04:53 AM // 04:53

[Warriors Endurance][Flail][Power Attack][Mystic Sweep][Eremites Attack] + Aura of Holy Might + Asuran Scan (5energy, insta-cast, 5 recharge) + I am the Strongest! (just a cheese skill, probably would use SY! since I heard it's 5 seconds at r4 now :P)

= 322 crit powerattack against 60 AL (only r7 asuran too, hahaha) and 113 DPS for 180 seconds against Master of Damage (and I kept screwing up maintaining everything too)

Shards of Orr says hi?

Axel Zinfandel · Aug 08, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

Isn't Aura of Holy Might too good to pass up in PvE on a W/D Dervish?

and Asuran scan now that it is INSTANT

and "By Ural's Hammer!"

Damage much?

Arkantos · Aug 08, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Quote:

more like

endurance
pious
disrupting
erms
frenzy
rush
bulls
res (in pvp)

and replace frenzy for flail, and maybe bulls for body blow in pve.

Again, talking about PvE. Frenzy, rush and bulls are all quite useless in PvE.

Quote:

Isn't Aura of Holy Might too good to pass up in PvE on a W/D Dervish?

Well, yes. I just threw together some skills that are viable in the scythe build, you can replace some attack skills with whatever really.

cellardweller · Aug 08, 2008, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Battle Rage
Whirlwind Attack
<Adr Attack Skill>
<Adr Attack Skill>
Save Yourselves
Never Rampage Alone
Charm Animal
Comfort Animal

Pick your favorite weapon and roll with it. I coining it the "imbabeastawar" just to see if such a aweful name will stick.

My warrior still has her pre-searing wolf from 3 years ago - it'll finally get a run. Yay!

FoxBat · Aug 08, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13

They only removed the adren loss, battle rage still ends if you use a non-attack skill like SY.

Godz Incarnate · Aug 08, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

nope its if you use a non adrenaline skill that battle rage ends. I just tried out SY + battle rage and it worked fairly well.

"Battle Rage: functionality changed to: "(15 seconds.) You move 33% faster and gain double adrenaline from your attacks. End if you use any non-adrenal skills. "

Axel Zinfandel · Aug 08, 2008, 08:25 AM // 08:25

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Originally Posted by Godz Incarnate

nope its if you use a non adrenaline skill that battle rage ends. I just tried out SY + battle rage and it worked fairly well.

"Battle Rage: functionality changed to: "(15 seconds.) You move 33% faster and gain double adrenaline from your attacks. End if you use any non-adrenal skills. "

[Adrenaline Junkie;ARKSEXyUPBf1fVMoMpvoCWRG]

Doesn't exactly have the extra party defense that the imbagon has, but packs much more of an offensive punch

cellardweller · Aug 08, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

[Adrenaline Junkie;ARKSEXyUPBf1fVMoMpvoCWRG]

Doesn't exactly have the extra party defense that the imbagon has, but packs much more of an offensive punch

Flail an BR are both stances

. You're limited to NRA or consumables for picking up an IAS.

cellardweller · Aug 08, 2008, 10:16 AM // 10:16

[Imbabeastawar1;OQITE1JbRiH0wqn4UE7LGczg2AA]
Bit of a struggle to keep SY up at r6, knockdown every 4secs or so and DW. 50dps at MoD.

[Imbabeastawar1;OQITEVJbRiH0wqnoScvKGczg2AA]
SY kept up 100%, 55dps. Obviously you're relying on an external source for cracked armour (MoD was tested without).

But my personal favorite has been:
[Imbabeastawar3;OQITE1JbRiH0wqnIOaHMGczg2AA]
Good AoE, 65dps at master of damage and maintains SY easily.

All tests done with a weapon hat, and minor weapon and strength runes wielding vampiric weapons.

Hopefully now not every thread in this forum will end up recommending a godmode dslasher

. The biggest downside I've found so far has been the pet - it makes bodyblocking difficult and can die at inopportune moments.

farmpig · Aug 08, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

[Imbabeastawar1;OQITE1JbRiH0wqn4UE7LGczg2AA]
Bit of a struggle to keep SY up at r6, knockdown every 4secs or so and DW. 50dps at MoD.

[Imbabeastawar1;OQITEVJbRiH0wqnoScvKGczg2AA]
SY kept up 100%, 55dps. Obviously you're relying on an external source for cracked armour (MoD was tested without).

But my personal favorite has been:
[Imbabeastawar3;OQITE1JbRiH0wqnIOaHMGczg2AA]
Good AoE, 65dps at master of damage and maintains SY easily.

All tests done with a weapon hat, and minor weapon and strength runes wielding vampiric weapons.

Hopefully now not every thread in this forum will end up recommending a godmode dslasher

. The biggest downside I've found so far has been the pet - it makes bodyblocking difficult and can die at inopportune moments.

Nice something new for a change. I believe that a 25e skill should have no place on a warrior bar. Full marks for the creativity though.

cellardweller · Aug 08, 2008, 01:24 PM // 13:24

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Originally Posted by farmpig

Nice something new for a change. I believe that a 25e skill should have no place on a warrior bar. Full marks for the creativity though.

Its 15e which is less than the energy you'll regen during its duration

Nightow · Aug 08, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Can someone help me out with a possible AB build please?
Made this one up last night.

12+1+1 strength
12 Scythe mastery

[Warrior's Endurance][Frenzy][Rush][Bull's Strike][Pious assault][Eremite's Attack][Griffon's Sweep][Lion's Comfort]

Originally, I had [Wild Blow] instead of Griff's but that messes up Rush and Lion's. Any suggestions or changes that need to be made?

EDIT: lol, I totally forgot about [Burst of Aggression] but even then you loose all your adrenaline. QQ