Curse

FantomFang · Aug 20, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

Sorry to bother you all, but I was just wondering how I could improve this build, at least to help me get through to the late game (hopefully)
So here's all the information...

LVL14

Full Charr Armor, w/+1 Strength on helm and damage absorption 1 on armor
Shield is armor 7, +10 vs Dwarves, +15 hp
Axe is customized, 7-19, hp+25, dmg +15% while in stance

And here's the build I'm currently running, with which I have had a particular problem finding the best "filler" for the last couple of slots

Executioner's Strike
Dismember
Penetration Blow
Cyclone Axe
"Watch Yourself!"
Frenzy
Vigorous Spirit ---slot is constantly being juggled
Live Vicariously! --- ditto

(I've found that slot 7 and 8 combined with cyclone/frenzy = fun, but with henchies I lack reliable big heals)

Attributes are as follows:
Healing Prayers --- 6
Strength --- 3 (4)
Axe Mastery --- 8
Tactics --- 6

Whew! The main question here is what can I do to improve my build, as I try to progress to the latter portion of the game (I'm on The Frost Gate of the Shiverpeaks now, going completely solo). I always bring 5 henchies with me now, the Monk, the two warrior types, the Ele, and the Ranger.

I have bought all the skills, and earned from quests all the skills possible so far, but that unfortunately also means no elites.

So, thanks in advance for any advice. I apologize if I should have posted this in another thread, but there didn't seem to be anything that discussed the process of getting to 20 and through the game, beyond general mission help.
Thanks in advance for any advice offered, it will be much appreciated.

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 20, 2008, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Read me.

At lvl 14 there really isn't much to it. You need [[Rush] to cancel [[Frenzy] but you're not up to it. You're not up to a lot of things. Get further into the game and we can give you better advice.

Btw, 4 attributes is bad. Drop Healing Prayers (it's bad).

Pour One For Jose · Aug 20, 2008, 08:13 AM // 08:13

Eeek, that build is frightening, same with your weapons.

Im taking it you only have prophecies, so I guess roll with this-

[skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill] and fill the rest up with whatever you feel like.

Get a run to Lion's Arch and buy a max axe/shield.

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Aug 20, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Your level 14..In pve. Anything goes, just play through quests and find what works for you. But make sure to capture [earth shaker] and [eviscerate] later.

Bowstring Badass · Aug 20, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Or he can buy an elite war tome for what 6k now? And just unlock an elite with balth faction then use his tome.

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Aug 20, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

If he's not too far in the game and generally not very experienced then he might not be able to afford a tome.

FantomFang · Aug 20, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

@Marty - I have looked through the guide some. I'll try and be a bit more thorough, get a better idea of what I should be shooting for...btw, I don't have Rush, but I do have Sprint, and they're the same...hmm...Also, the problem about getting further into the game is that by the time I get there, I'll probably have a much better idea of what I should be doing =P

@Jose - Guess it is, eh? I do know that I can get a run, but on my first character (and with very few resources) I'd like to try and push through all of the missions and quests on the way. More satisfying, at least at the start. Don't have any elites yet, and how do I use Disrupting Chop properly? Whenever I try and use it, the enemy gets its ability off before I can manage to disrupt it.

To the rest - Yeah, I don't even have 2k gold yet. Sort of taking my time, trying to do every little quest, and running with a party full of mercs isn't conducive to profit.

Thx for the advice there, guess I'll just have to keep on trucking. Will and try and make the adjustments advised.

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Aug 20, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Disrupting chop has to hit while your target is using a skill, I wouldn't worry..I've played warrior for a while and I still suck at Melee interrupting.

Age · Aug 21, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Read me.

At lvl 14 there really isn't much to it. You need [[Rush] to cancel [[Frenzy] but you're not up to it. You're not up to a lot of things. Get further into the game and we can give you better advice.

Btw, 4 attributes is bad. Drop Healing Prayers (it's bad).

He would need over 1000 Balthazar Faction to unlock rush and buy a tompe for it best to use sprint for now.

To the OP take Celestial Beaver's advice.

It is not our job to just about build your character from scratch. Play the game, get some skills behind you, decent armour and weaponry, then come back and post your build and ask for help improving it.

Crom The Pale · Aug 21, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Take your time and enjoy the game.

Untill you reach level 20 and have access to all of your Attribute points you really can't build an optimized character.

Do not be afraid of spending some time in a zone you already have passed just to gain some easy EXP. You might even concider redoing some missions just for the experiance. Try a few different ways of completing the mission as fast as possible or to kill every foe in the mission.

A few very key items:

1) Do NOT divide your attribute more than 3 ways. 2 is optimum.
2) Do rely upon monks for healing as a Warrior. Rez is optional.
3) Add up your energy skills on your bar, it should be under 20energy.

FantomFang · Aug 22, 2008, 05:00 PM // 17:00

@Age - yeah, I understand. Needless to say, I've been experimenting quite a bit on what seems to work for me, so far I've just made it to Kryta (with off and on playing)

@Crom -
1) definitely. I'm starting to learn that through experience

As it is now i usually pack as high of a Axe/Tactics as I can afford, and then throw the throwaway leftovers into a monk line for some added utility. Been trying out some of the smiting lately...

2) I try to, but as I like to play mostly SP I hate relying on the hench monk. She has no idea of healing through degeneration, I say! That being said, I've died more times from Empathy than through bad hench monking.

3) Yea, I try and keep the cost low. As it is now, the only consistent energy drains I have are IAS and Cyclone Axe.

@Darkblade - That actually proved key to me the other day. The Gates of Kryta mission was easy on my 2nd try when I brought that along to disrupt the shadows on the bonus. No more high damage chain lightning for them! That being said, Distracting BLow probably would have been better for that purpose...

Well, thanks again to all, I understand you probably get these questions alot and can be understandably frustrated, but I hope that I wasn't too much trouble. At least my first post didn't contain simply this:

"HALP I NEEDZ WARZMO ADVICE NOW!"
God, I can't type purposely bad. It's so hard! Automatic, reflexive backspacing ftw/ftl?

I might come back sometime in the future...but I'll make sure by then that I have a lot more under my belt, so to speak. Have a nice day!

Need More Donuts · Aug 23, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

don't divide attribut 4 way

Savio · Aug 23, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Healing Breeze isn't a big heal.

-Lotus- · Aug 23, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Need More Donuts

for a reliable "big heal" HEALING BREEZE works well

obviously dont listen to this user.
every regen/degen skill in the game is terrible, as regen/degen maxes out at 20 HPS/DPS.

healing breeze is even bad on monks. most of the healing line is bad in fact... dont use it on your warrior... ever.

JDRyder · Aug 23, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Need More Donuts

for a reliable "big heal" HEALING BREEZE works well

if by big you mean to start people raging at you cause healing breeze sucks then yes

imo

Crom The Pale · Aug 24, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantomFang

@Age - yeah, I understand. Needless to say, I've been experimenting quite a bit on what seems to work for me, so far I've just made it to Kryta (with off and on playing)

@Crom -
1) definitely. I'm starting to learn that through experience

As it is now i usually pack as high of a Axe/Tactics as I can afford, and then throw the throwaway leftovers into a monk line for some added utility. Been trying out some of the smiting lately...

2) I try to, but as I like to play mostly SP I hate relying on the hench monk. She has no idea of healing through degeneration, I say! That being said, I've died more times from Empathy than through bad hench monking.

3) Yea, I try and keep the cost low. As it is now, the only consistent energy drains I have are IAS and Cyclone Axe.

@Darkblade - That actually proved key to me the other day. The Gates of Kryta mission was easy on my 2nd try when I brought that along to disrupt the shadows on the bonus. No more high damage chain lightning for them! That being said, Distracting BLow probably would have been better for that purpose...

Well, thanks again to all, I understand you probably get these questions alot and can be understandably frustrated, but I hope that I wasn't too much trouble. At least my first post didn't contain simply this:

"HALP I NEEDZ WARZMO ADVICE NOW!"
God, I can't type purposely bad. It's so hard! Automatic, reflexive backspacing ftw/ftl?

I might come back sometime in the future...but I'll make sure by then that I have a lot more under my belt, so to speak. Have a nice day!

Every war dies from [empathy] at least once, its part of the learning curve.

One thing that I forgot to post was that you can adjust your interface to make some things easier see at a glance. From increasing the length of your HP bar to moving status icons to a more visible location.

Take advantage of the flexible interface so you get the info you want quickly and that which you do not want is less visible so as not to distract you.

joshuarodger · Aug 24, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantomFang

@Crom -
1) definitely. I'm starting to learn that through experience

As it is now i usually pack as high of a Axe/Tactics as I can afford, and then throw the throwaway leftovers into a monk line for some added utility. Been trying out some of the smiting lately...

IMO you seem to have a couple things backwards here. don't worry though i think most of us made the same mistake with our first warriors.

put as many points as you possibly can in your weapon's attribute. then try and put the rest in strength. most of the skills in tactics are blah. as a warrior, or any physical for that matter, you should pump out damage and most, if not all, of your skills should be used to that effect. tactics doesn't have very many worthwhile skills that help accomplish this. for this reason, don't spec in tactics unless you're trying to meet a requirement for a shield.

using skills from another profession isn't necessarily a bad thing, but try and make sure they augment what you're already doing, which should be killing. skills like [[conjure flame], [[conjure frost], and [[conjure ligh] up your dps so it's ok to try and find a place for them on your bar, especially since they have a 60 second recharge and you won't have to worry about recasting, and therefore draining your energy, very often.

rely on your monks to keep you alive, don't bring skills to do it for yourself because they are usually too energy intensive or just flat out week for a warrior to use, except maybe for [[lion's comf] but it's in the strength line and you also gain most of the adren you use for this skill back after you use it. the only skill from the monk line that you should even consider is [[mending touch] to remove blind or cripple. but if you do decide to bring it, you don't need to spec in protection prayers for it. it removes 2 conditions, no matter what, and that's all you should be using if for, not for extra healing. now if you happen to have a few points left after your other attributes are maxed, you can go ahead and put those points in prot but don't lower one of your main attributes to get some healing out of this skill.

just a few of my opinions, hope they helped.

FantomFang · Aug 24, 2008, 04:53 AM // 04:53

@Many people - Yeah, not much for healing breeze. Used it in Ascalon, never since. 10 Mana for hp regen that my henchie monk likes to spam for some reason, and that also requires some investment in Healing Prayers to be useful? no thx.

@Crom - I do need to more adjustments, as I didn't know you could adjust my HP bar's length, for one. Hmm...

@Joshua - I do agree on those skills there. [skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill] and [skill]Mending Touch[/skill] would be useful, but I have neither yet. About strength, I'd LOVE to spec more into it, but I have very few skills that I really want to use out of it right now. :/ Been trying out Bonetti's Defense from tactics lately, for example, and that with "Watch Yourself!" has helped a bit. I have been trying to slowly spec my build into more damage over defense, as I get better at the game, and knowing how to work my build. Btw, I can't believe I passed over "For Great Justice!" as long as I did. It's fantastic!

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 25, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantomFang

Been trying out Bonetti's Defense from tactics lately

Stop.

You don't need the energy or the block (maybe a [[Guardian] from a Prot Monk if you REALLY REALLY REALLY need it, but you shouldn't), so all Bonetti's is doing is making you put points into Tactics and denying you an IAS (that's +50% damage and +50% adrenaline from 50% more hits).

FantomFang · Aug 25, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Huh, another post here. =)
Yeah, I'm not using Bonetti's Defense anymore, pretty much stacking the Axe/Strength w/enough Tactics for shield. It was useful, but not really...very specific instances. I'm just gonna leave this thread alone now, as I don't really want to bother you all anymore for help (wiki + good guild = win), so again, thx for the advice.