Curse

A11Eur0 · Sep 24, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Here's something I came across earlier today:

Keen Chop
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Enraging charge
For Great Justice!
Flail
Insert random PvE skills or rez here

Use with a D/N orders hero and you have an axe form of dslash with repeatable critical hits. Add in a 20/20 and customized axe, and maybe even conjure, and your DPS is very fine, on the order of Dslash WITH DW.

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 24, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Spamming Keen Chop would disrupt your adr a lot. The efficiency of Evis+Executioner's will drop, and it basically means no SY. Overall, it sounds good, but I'm not really sure it'd be worthwhile.

Savio · Sep 24, 2008, 04:05 AM // 04:05

There are a couple of problems with Keen Axe: it doesn't play nicely with other adrenaline skills, and it doesn't work so well against tougher monsters because crits are still affected by armor, whereas +damage isn't. When FGJ is up it runs okay adrenaline-wise, but without it you're just a normal Evis build with crits every other hit, which doesn't stand out. You could run Cleave and Dismember and get a better effect. Also, conjure plus orders does not work.

tipiak · Sep 25, 2008, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Imho frenzy is a terrible idea in HM PvE. Just use flail and cancel with rush if the mob is kitting (which happens less than PvP where frenzy belongs).

Greedy Gus · Sep 25, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by tipiak

Imho frenzy is a terrible idea in HM PvE. Just use flail and cancel with rush if the mob is kitting (which happens less than PvP where frenzy belongs).

Every time frenzy doesn't kill you, it was a better choice. I'd rather push more damage than be afraid of taking damage and stancing between flail and rush wasting loads of adrenaline. If the build can put prot on you, frenzy tends to be fine in almost any HM area, and the necro build (which is what this topic was asking about) makes running frenzy an easy call. In fact, running a SY dragon slash build is basically way overkill on defense with sabway, so I would call into question those replies.

_Nihilist_ · Sep 26, 2008, 06:08 AM // 06:08

Half the time I have Godmode running I don't bother with SY! unless I see red bars fluctuating too much for my taste. Just because it's on my bar doesn't mean I have to spam it, but it is good utility. I can (and do) just as easily hit FGJ! > 20 seconds of DSlash w/ no SY!. It's actually rather funny.

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Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

You can bring rush or enraging to specifically cancel flail, but those are just even more resources spent that don't translate to damage.

How does Enraging Charge not equal more damage? Bonus Adrenaline on your next hit doesn't speed up your killing enough, or are u using a full energy bar?

Greedy Gus · Sep 26, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Half the time I have Godmode running I don't bother with SY! unless I see red bars fluctuating too much for my taste. I can (and do) just as easily hit FGJ! > 20 seconds of DSlash w/ no SY!. It's actually rather funny.

That's absolutely the best reason for playing D-slash in pve, FGJ is still broken with it (quite fun).

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

How does Enraging Charge not equal more damage? Bonus Adrenaline on your next hit doesn't speed up your killing enough, or are u using a full energy bar?

Hrm, that quote was somewhat easy to misconstrue. The point I was trying to focus on was the word "specifically". That is, rush or enraging charge are both good skills, but if your mindset is that those are your 'frenzy/flail cancels', then you're going to be using them and your resources less efficiently.

Bobby2 · Sep 27, 2008, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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Every time frenzy doesn't kill you, it was a better choice.

Meh.

Flail's downside is so easily negated (yes I'm looking at you Grasping Earth) that I would say it's superior in HM. Yes, it drains your adren a bit, but it's up almost twice as long as Frenzy. And scary damage is scary, you won't always have Prot Spirit on you.

Enraging Charge on recharge btw

_Nihilist_ · Sep 27, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

Enraging Charge on recharge btw

I would say use it a bit more selectively, but if at all possible without sacrificing an Adrenal boost for the next mob, yes, EC on recharge