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Zodiac Meteor · Nov 05, 2008, 05:10 AM // 05:10

I got an elite tome drop and I was wondering Earth Shaker or Backbreaker? Which one should I pick for PvE and why?

xDusT II · Nov 05, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Earth Shaker for the ability to cause AoE knockdown which has both offensive and defensive purposes. Backbreaker's 4 second knockdown isn't very amazing at 10 adrenaline. If you want to knocklock, Brawling Headbutt and Dragon Slash under "For Great Justice!" is better.

Zodiac Meteor · Nov 05, 2008, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

Earth Shaker for the ability to cause AoE knockdown which has both offensive and defensive purposes. Backbreaker's 4 second knockdown isn't very amazing at 10 adrenaline. If you want to knocklock, Brawling Headbutt and Dragon Slash under "For Great Justice!" is better.

So, should I go with dragon slash as an elite? But wouldn't be better to take out brawling and put in "Save Yourselves!"? Cause I've already done that.

Arkantos · Nov 05, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Earth Shaker is amazing in PvE. Get it.

xDusT II · Nov 05, 2008, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

So, should I go with dragon slash as an elite? But wouldn't be better to take out brawling and put in "Save Yourselves!"? Cause I've already done that.

I'd probably favour a DSlash SY warrior over a Hammer warrior unless you already had someone else spamming SY. Earthshaker is still an amazing asset in PvE though.

To clarify my post, the reason why I don't suggest backbreaker is that all it offers is an extra second long KD for a very high adrenaline cost. If you want to KD lock a single target, then powering out Brawling Headbutt's with Dragon Slash is better. If you want to AoE KD and potentially follow up with AoE hammer attacks, take Earth Shaker. Both elites are very effective in PvE.

wind fire and ice · Nov 05, 2008, 05:57 AM // 05:57

[[email protected]][Dragon [email protected]][brawling headbutt][Savage [email protected]][Save Yourselves!][Enduring Harmony][For Great Justice][Enraging [email protected]]

Best pve build imo,but of your two earthshaker is -much- better.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 05, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03

BB can keep something down for 4 seconds. DSlash/Brawling Headbutt can keep something down for 30 seconds.

ES can keep everything down almost constantly.

That's all there is to it, basically. BB doesn't fit in with the PvE gameplay with the current state of DSlash.

Ben-A-BoO · Nov 05, 2008, 06:58 AM // 06:58

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

ES can keep everything down almost constantly.

Mind to share your build? or is it just God Mode + Earth Shaker?

Daisuko · Nov 05, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47

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Originally Posted by timebandit

Mind to share your build? or is it just God Mode + Earth Shaker?

Not hard to think of. Earthshaker, whirlwind attack, crude swing, flail, optional optional optional optional.

EDIT : I always thought calling a build "God Mode" pretty stupid anyway, as the build is not infallible, I'd prefer a para anyway.

Shasgaliel · Nov 05, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

I also prefer earthshaker since it is powerful for dealing with mobs as well as with a single target while backbreaker is a single target one. I can imagine that for some probably monk bosses in HM backbraker might be more successful in a spike - but I would still replace it with earthshaker.

On the side note: if you accidentally use backbraker on the foe which cannot be knocked down you just waste your adrenaline. However with earthshaker all other adjacent foes go down anyway even if you used it on the target which cannot be knocked (unless they are also resistant to KD). I just think earthshaker is more powerful, more universal and more idiot proof.

Tyla · Nov 05, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Earth Shaker. AoE knockdown is simply amazing. Although a DSlasher wins when it comes to single target knockdown.

Picuso · Nov 05, 2008, 10:34 AM // 10:34

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Backbreaker. AoE knockdown is simply amazing. Although a DSlasher wins when it comes to single target knockdown.

hummm... Backbreaker=AoE KD? O_O

Super Igor · Nov 05, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

Urf shakuuur gogogo!!!

Teutonic Paladin · Nov 05, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

Urf shakuuur gogogo!!!

THIS.

Earth Shaker, is nearly as good as Dragon Slash if not even. You can use Earth Shaker + Whirlwind Attack/Crude Swing to permanently introduce a large group of foes to the ground, and you can maintain SY almost as well. However, the effectiveness of this build is largely reliant on player skill (at balling and timing KDs) unlike DSlash where you can roll your head across the keyboard to kick ass.

Bobby2 · Nov 05, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Last edited by Tyla; Today at 03:39 AM. Reason: Fixed

lol @ brain fart

For PvE; yeah, AoE KDs plz.

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Originally Posted by Daisuko

Not hard to think of. Earthshaker, whirlwind attack, crude swing, flail, optional optional optional optional.

Might as well put FGJ! (and Enduring Harmony) up with those.

/E for Grasping Earth is always nice as well

Super Igor · Nov 05, 2008, 06:01 PM // 18:01

Yeah, uf is aweasome in pve and unless there are a lot of unkdable mobs in the area is far superior to ds.

Luminarus · Nov 06, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

HAMMERS ARE GUD

. Backbreaker has for a long time been my favourite warrior skill, just plain cool. But earthshaker is better.

deluxe · Nov 06, 2008, 06:33 AM // 06:33

Earthshaker, Crude Swing, Whirlwind Attack, Whirlwind (pve mobs are always attacking), Flail, Enraging Charge, For Great Justice, Sig.

Mucho fun, mucho smash face.

beserk · Nov 06, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50

[earth shaker] > [backbreaker] in pve, only time [backbreaker] > [earth shaker] is 1v1 PVP due to the +dmg bonus.

Zodiac Meteor · Nov 06, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Thanks, Earth Shaker it is.