Curse

Drunken Smurf · Jun 01, 2009, 02:59 AM // 02:59

A WARRIOR CASTER

alright what do you guys think of a warrior caster... ive been experementing as a warrior healer and a warrior necro.

If you have any builds you think will work as a WarCaster plz post them heres the best ive come up with :

W/N~

13 Strenghth 12 + 1 [Helmet]
12 Blood Magic

i had 57 mana you can get more or less but i suggest about that
and bout 500HP +

[E] Life Transfer
Barbed Signet
Rip Enchantment
Blood Renewal
Strip Enchantment
Endure Pain
Signet of stamina
-Your choice- (I suggest a rez or something for more HP)

Used it a few times in RA and i find they are fun builds to use (yes i know they will suck compared to most other builds) if you come up with any or have comments plz post

Lishy · Jun 01, 2009, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Endure Pain is a fail skill. It just fails...
And what benefits using those skills do you have other professions? Looks to me this is inferior to just about any other caster. Even the Ritualists.
Amount of energy is not everything and when it comes right down to it, it's about energy "management".

To be honest, I've actually been thinking of trying to make a Warrior caster Warrior's Endurance gimmick because I wanted to use my Destroyer Focus for any use possible.
But for any of us warriors wanting to make a casting gimmick, we will have to brain storm hard in order to come up with a good source of management for a Warrior's energy.

Eragon Zarroc · Jun 01, 2009, 03:45 AM // 03:45

don't do it. just don't. make a pvp character and play necro, lmao.

Spike Stritter · Jun 01, 2009, 04:02 AM // 04:02

fun is as far as your ganna get. efficient is another story

Reverend Dr · Jun 01, 2009, 04:22 AM // 04:22

Lyssa's Aura is about the only thing you can hope to fuel enough mana to cast with. I've only seen it effectively used in buildwars for 1v1 (after all 1v1 guild wars is already a joke) as a gambit.

WE looks good on paper, but isn't. Its amazing energy management for a warrior that attacks, but it quickly becomes bad on a warrior that is trying to cast. You must attack to get energy, must not attack to cast, such in play WE and casting do not synergize at all.

Half the regen of a caster class is already a huge deficit, the fact that the warrior's innate abilities and skills are just not suited for any type of casting just means there has never been and never will be any reason other than novelty to run a caster warrior.

Winterclaw · Jun 01, 2009, 06:17 AM // 06:17

I hope this build is a bad joke.

[DE] · Jun 01, 2009, 06:27 AM // 06:27

In '05 a friend wanted to run a warrior caster because the enemy wouldn't expect it! The element of surprise is, in fact, a strong one!

Stop. Collaborate and listen. Warrior casters will never be good. Any reasoning you may have to argue otherwise is void and you should instead learn the basic mechanics of the game before trying to improvise with your own '1337' builds.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 01, 2009, 10:45 AM // 10:45

If you want to play a caster, why don't you just play a caster? Thats what I'm trying to understand. Wars are Wars, they always have and always will fail at being casters. RL example - if you had a problem with your plumbing, would you call a plumber or an electrician? By all means, play around with your random spellcasting builds but don't expect them to be anywhere remotely close to the power and efficiency of real War builds.

Crom The Pale · Jun 01, 2009, 10:50 AM // 10:50

I used to run a type of war/caster in PvE with great effectiveness.

[Glyph of Essence][Meteor Shower][flail][Dismember][Disrupting Chop][Agonizing Chop][Executioner's Strike][Warrior's Endurance]

The idea behind the build is to place most all your points as normal, Strength/AxeMastery and just use the MS for the 3KD's as a form of mob control.

Now that we have PvE skills I would think a better variation on this would be possible but haven't taken the time to find one.

Saraneth · Jun 01, 2009, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Warriors probably shouldn't be casting anything other than [[Asuran Scan] or [[Aura of Holy Might] in Pve.

Cleaver The Enraged Panda · Jun 01, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Honestly, warrior's aren't meant for casting...at all.
2 regen, and I think 20 base energy?
If you want to use a build like that, I would switch to necromancer.

Drunken Smurf · Jun 01, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleaver The Enraged Panda

Honestly, warrior's aren't meant for casting...at all.
2 regen, and I think 20 base energy?
If you want to use a build like that, I would switch to necromancer.

uhmm i have a necro my best char is a necro i was just boerd and its fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

I hope this build is a bad joke.

It was just for a fun joke at first but i actually pwned it up in RA using it and its insanly fun to use XD

EDIT Winterclaw: Merged double post

Winterclaw · Jun 01, 2009, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Any build can win a few times in RA because RA is that bad.

SimplyAmazing · Jun 01, 2009, 06:39 PM // 18:39

lol @ "pwned it up in RA"

i'll guarantee you were the war with Flesh golem in RA last night.

I understand the concept of a warrior caster, but this is just bad.

Drunken Smurf · Jun 02, 2009, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

lol @ "pwned it up in RA"

i'll guarantee you were the war with Flesh golem in RA last night.

I understand the concept of a warrior caster, but this is just bad.

nope i didn't do any summoning wasn't me and there is no concept try the build yourself you will enjoy it it is very fun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Any build can win a few times in RA because RA is that bad.

a few times? it was 17 times...

and i won in a 2v1 (i was the one) and two 1v1's though yes i agree most ppl in RA do suck thats why i use my joke builds there

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 02, 2009, 09:46 AM // 09:46

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Originally Posted by Drunken Smurf

and i won in a 2v1 (i was the one) and two 1v1's

This tends to be a good indication that your build is bad. Good Wars rely on team support, since the bar tends to be very crowded and you don't have space for self-heals and stuff.

Maneo Ranae · Jun 02, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I would only really consider using WarriorCasters if Warrior's Endurance worked with Spears,... Which it doesn't (Believe me, I tried, I actually tried a W/R Beastmaster-build with Flail, a Zealous Spear & Warrior's Endurance in PvE,... But WE doesn't trigger on Spears!)

Hanging Man · Jun 06, 2009, 03:19 AM // 03:19

let wars be wars and necs be necs.

btw I noticed you had your strength at 13, doesn;t that seem useless since you are not attacking?

Owik Gall · Jun 06, 2009, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Ha ha! A Warrior caster build without Warriors Endurance? It's safe to say that where I stand is no different than all the rest in here. Sorry, but your build is purely unreliable let alone not fun to use. Sorry, but you'll have to use something WAY better than this if you want to team up with anybody, or gain respect for that matter..

Drunken Smurf · Jun 07, 2009, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanging Man

let wars be wars and necs be necs.

btw I noticed you had your strength at 13, doesn;t that seem useless since you are not attacking?

strenth isnt for my atks is for my HP so higher strength = higher HP