Curse

spartan4595 · Aug 04, 2009, 03:44 PM // 15:44

hey guys i recently blew all the money i ever had on elite kurz armor for my warrior and now that im using him again im trying a warriors endurance axe build which i feel isnt getting me that much damage as id like. any help to rechange this would helpa alot. this is for pve and i own all campaigns but nf.

strength 11+2
axe 12

warriors endurance
frenzy
power attack
cyclone axe
dismember
you move like a dwarf
sprint
rez

Shrimz · Aug 04, 2009, 04:20 PM // 16:20

get counter attack

I can't believe you didn't see the WE thread 3 topics down....

spartan4595 · Aug 04, 2009, 04:22 PM // 16:22

its nightfall thanks for noticing me mentioning i dont have it..........

i cant believe u didnt notice it being about axes for that build. did u notice anything today?

Shrimz · Aug 04, 2009, 04:37 PM // 16:37

soz its morning lol.

the build looks good i guess.

try maybe rush instead of sprint because if you activate frenzy while sprint is recharging it's possible frenzy to last full duration which isn't good.

Reverend Dr · Aug 04, 2009, 10:41 PM // 22:41

Save yourselves. Yes its defensive, but even without a huge adrenal engine behind it, it is still very powerful.

Also consider Drunken Master and Asuran Scan. I cannot recommend Asuran Scan enough in a WE build, you will actually have enough energy to use it on every mob.

Protector's strike. Many will say it is a terrible skill because it doesn't have any +dmg. In reality it is practically an instant hit and little energy cost with WE. This makes dismember and save yourselves charge a lot faster. In general the people that tell you to not bring prot strike will also tell you to not bring dismember because the extra 100 damage from deep wound they don't consider to be +dmg.

Counter attack is just terrible. Especially on a WE build, the extra energy is pointless.

Cyclone Axe is very lackluster. It isn't a bad skill, but there are just many that work far better than it. Leave the AoE to eles and necros.

Shrimz · Aug 04, 2009, 11:29 PM // 23:29

I'd rather bring counter attack than protector's strike +dmg while foe is attacking is better than +dmg while foe is moving. Your more likely to hit a foe attacking than running

zelgadissan · Aug 04, 2009, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by Shrimz

I'd rather bring counter attack than protector's strike +dmg while foe is attacking is better than +dmg while foe is moving. Your more likely to hit a foe attacking than running

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Counterattack
Melee Attack. If this attack hits, you strike for +5...29...35 damage. If you hit an attacking foe, you gain 2...5...6 Energy.

Personally, I'll take the skill that recharges in half the time with an activation time for damage compression and a chance for more +damage over the skill that does basically the exact same thing as your elite. Counterattack is pretty unnecessary in a WE build.

spartan4595 · Aug 05, 2009, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Save yourselves. Yes its defensive, but even without a huge adrenal engine behind it, it is still very powerful.

Also consider Drunken Master and Asuran Scan. I cannot recommend Asuran Scan enough in a WE build, you will actually have enough energy to use it on every mob.

Protector's strike. Many will say it is a terrible skill because it doesn't have any +dmg. In reality it is practically an instant hit and little energy cost with WE. This makes dismember and save yourselves charge a lot faster. In general the people that tell you to not bring prot strike will also tell you to not bring dismember because the extra 100 damage from deep wound they don't consider to be +dmg.

Counter attack is just terrible. Especially on a WE build, the extra energy is pointless.

Cyclone Axe is very lackluster. It isn't a bad skill, but there are just many that work far better than it. Leave the AoE to eles and necros.

sy and asuran scan seem good but after mentioning those cyclone axe is a must thanks for advice.

Reverend Dr · Aug 05, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Asuran Scan -> Dismember -> Power Attack -> Protector's strike and even HM PvE mobs are dead. When do I use cyclone?

If the argument is about adrenaline, then prot strike generates more adrenaline over a fight than cyclone axe, it just doesn't have the huge burst of adrenaline if you manage to hit 4 mobs at once.

imnotyourmother · Aug 06, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Swap out Frenzy for Drunken Master. My Deld title is not that high and I get 30% faster attacking and movement speeds for 80 seconds or so. Also you will not take double damage. That skill sucks with the advent of Drunken Master - and you work on a title...

I totally agree with the rev. Power attack and Protectors strike are killer as they will hit ...one two really fast and for almost 60 damage a pop at 13 in strength. Couple that with attacking 30% faster and thow in an adren skill for something to do while they recharge and you should be killing things faster than...well faster than my dog can grab a piece of pop corn from my hand.

Using Lion's comfort should help with the adren cause it will give you 3 strikes and boost your health at the same time.

Also with the cyclone axe and lots of foes...your energy should be maxed if you can get 7 or more in one hit!!

But what are you going to use the extra energy on? your skills now only cost 2 energy and things are long dead before you run out of energy even with other things.

Oh.. drop the res...who uses that anymore? I would rather have Lion's comfort and let the monk or someone else res me and I woop but on my foes. NOW i mostly solo so there is no point for a res. if not then I flag my hero's away from me and they res me while I still get the drops. Sneaky I know

spartan4595 · Aug 06, 2009, 06:49 PM // 18:49

lol guys thanks im was just weary about prot strike and the extra damage condition i see tho its mostly from its activation time for a quick attack thanks alot

Reverend Dr · Aug 06, 2009, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

Using Lion's comfort should help with the adren cause it will give you 3 strikes and boost your health at the same time.

Lion's Comfort is terrible. It is not a gain of 3 adrenaline, it costs 1 adrenaline to use, so it is only a net of 2 adrenaline. In the time that you spend using Lion's you could have hit + prot strike, so all you gain by using lion's is lost damage and a wasted skill slot. Also in the time you use lion's comfort you are neither attacking, nor moving to attack so any mob not on you is going to be further away.

spartan4595 · Aug 06, 2009, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Lion's Comfort is terrible. It is not a gain of 3 adrenaline, it costs 1 adrenaline to use, so it is only a net of 2 adrenaline. In the time that you spend using Lion's you could have hit + prot strike, so all you gain by using lion's is lost damage and a wasted skill slot. Also in the time you use lion's comfort you are neither attacking, nor moving to attack so any mob not on you is going to be further away.

also i dont have nf so mentioning it was pointless....... update i tried prot strike its not bad i just need to get used to it. however it does annoy me to see it hit 7 sometimes

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 07, 2009, 03:35 AM // 03:35

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Lion's Comfort is terrible. It is not a gain of 3 adrenaline, it costs 1 adrenaline to use, so it is only a net of 2 adrenaline. In the time that you spend using Lion's you could have hit + prot strike, so all you gain by using lion's is lost damage and a wasted skill slot. Also in the time you use lion's comfort you are neither attacking, nor moving to attack so any mob not on you is going to be further away.

LC is the best option if you want/need a self-heal. Ideally you won't need it, but it's good for new players (not everyone is an elite player). It's not terrible, it's just that most of the time it's unneccessary.