Curse

villur · Jun 19, 2010, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Since my last post was closed, im going to try to make a post that's more by the rules, so here we go

As in the last post, i said that i just recently returned to GW after a 4-5 month brake. Im unaware of any changes so bare that in mind

But im creating a new toon, a warrior.

BUILD 1
For some massive aoe dmg im thinking of picking up 100blades and combining that with flail and WW ( when its on CD ) and mabye SnM Slash or some adrenaline skills

BUILD2
Updating tomorrow, but in thinking some AOE axe cyclone and WW with some adrenaline managment and IAS.

As for my heroes i gave em Splinter weapon / SoH , etc, please look at them and mabye give some tips and thoughts on how to improve them

And here are the codes
OwAD0rjfOW6NCIZeMTqI3VdC - regular healer with SoH
OAhjYUhqoOYMiXGTaOMncjzLGA - ritualist healer/splinter weapon
OgBDkmiMJwSTfLCDtgMCAAA - err, random caster, i like to be the only melee to get all the buffs

so what are your thoughts

?

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 19, 2010, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by villur

BUILD 1
For some massive aoe dmg im thinking of picking up 100blades and combining that with flail and WW ( when its on CD ) and mabye SnM Slash or some adrenaline skills

Sounds solid. Need to fit Mark of Pain onto a hero bar for this to be a better AoE machine. If you don't, you're probably better off taking DSlash instead so you can use WW every other attack and have SY/other adr skill there if you want it.

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BUILD2
Updating tomorrow, but in thinking some AOE axe cyclone and WW with some adrenaline managment and IAS.

Won't be nearly as good as the first. You won't be much good if you don't/can't ball up each mob though.

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OwAD0rjfOW6NCIZeMTqI3VdC - regular healer with SoH

Ugh. Needs a lot of work.

1) Never ever put a rez on a Monk bar. Monks keep people alive. If someone dies, having a rez will just make more people die because the monk spent 4 seconds not healing/protting. It also costs a slot, which could have been used to keep the guy alive.

2) Health Regeneration is generally inferior to a straight heal.

3) Glimmer of Light is meh.

4) I don't particularly like Mend Ailment. Dismiss Condition is better.

5) [email protected] is meh. You don't have all the attribute points yet, but it's much better at 10 or 12. Also, it's generally better on a midliner or Smiting Monk. This is because you can afford to push the energy on those characters (by casting it on multiple party members), whereas you need your Monk to have energy at all times.

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OAhjYUhqoOYMiXGTaOMncjzLGA - ritualist healer/splinter weapon

1) Well, no elite for one, but you're probably working on that.

2) N/Rt is meh. An ER Ele will probably heal AND prot better than this and the previous bar put together. It'll free up a slot for a Spirit Spam Rit, which will probably include SoS, Splinter Weapon (@14 Channeling), some other Channeling stuff, and whatever you want to throw on the end. Some resto stuff (definitely not needed in NM), curses (the aforementioned MoP if you've got nowhere else to put it), blood, smiting, prots (possibly), etc. Rits are great midline characters, throw on whatever you need at the time.

3) I don't like the idea of 3 weapon spells. As the only human melee, you're going to want to have WoW/Vengeful spammed on you. However, you also want Splinter to be up as much as possible.

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OgBDkmiMJwSTfLCDtgMCAAA - err, random caster, i like to be the only melee to get all the buffs

I'm guessing you really have no idea whatsoever to do with this slot. This bar is pretty bad, so scrap it for something else. Taking into account the previous two suggestions (SoS Rit and ER Ele), you'll have the Necro free (in case you haven't got the others yet). Minion Bombers are always a good bet. They also provide room to fit in Smites, Blood, Curses, Prots, Hex/Condition removal, etc.

maxxfury · Jun 19, 2010, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Basically what Marty said

except:

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Originally Posted by Marty

4) I don't particularly like Mend Ailment. Dismiss Condition is better.

Heroes use dismiss very badly! and use it on enchanted ppl, not ppl with conditions, they use mend cond/ailment WAY better! and actually AS a cond removal

Warriors endurance + energy based attacks with a scythe is pretty epic and very easy to use

prob easier than 100b and is very stable.
You basically wanna have splinter weapons and soh cast on you, while you keep asuran scan and chop stuff up with 1/2 activation attack skills and keep shouting save your self..

Some possible here bars :
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:E/Mo_ER_Prot_Hero
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:N/any_Minion_Bomber +curses or prots
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/a...Channeling_Rit +soh

are pretty solid for a "balanced" hero setup.

villur · Jun 19, 2010, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Im replying from my iPhone so quoting is pretty hard but anyway you would suggest me

Mo/Rt - smiting monk with SoH and splinter weapons
Mo/any - a regular healer
N/any - hex/curse, probably SS and MoP

am i right?

Dusk_ · Jun 19, 2010, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Unless they're using RoJ, Monk heroes generally suck. The lack of energy management (and tendency to spam) means that Necroes or Eles are far superior when it comes to redbarring or protting. And RoJ...well, it's great if you want to micro a lot, and terrible if you don't.

Offensive necroes are, unfortunately, extremely outdated unless they're minion masters. Spiteful Spirit is one of the few viable options, and it really isn't that great anymore.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 19, 2010, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by villur

Im replying from my iPhone so quoting is pretty hard but anyway you would suggest me

Mo/Rt - smiting monk with SoH and splinter weapons
Mo/any - a regular healer
N/any - hex/curse, probably SS and MoP

am i right?

Don't bother with a Monk for healing/protting. In addition to the above Monk hero issues, using a Monk to keep you alive doesn't justify its hero slot. What heroes are good for is putting particular skills or skill synergies that henchmen don't have. An example is MoP or smites. A monk healer hero doesn't offer anything dynamic compared to a hench monk. They're a bit better, but that's it. You're getting very very little out of the hero slot. You're better off just using both monk henchies and getting something better for that slot.

jimbo32 · Jun 20, 2010, 06:25 AM // 06:25

One of my favorite hero builds is the Ether Renewal Protection Ele. It's *so* far beyond a hero or hench prot Monk that it's silly really. With 14 Energy Storage, there's enough blue bar to constantly spam prots through any fight. Protection is almost always better than healing, in my opinion. Give him a staff like Everlasting Ghostly for an extra +20 energy and extended enchants.

Also, the SoS Channeling Rit build that maxxfury linked should cover you for SoH with 12 points in Smiting. When using this on a hero, I replace Ancestors' Rage with Bloodsong (AR seems to need microing on heroes, which I find annoying). Optionals are SoH, smite hex, and smite condition. Spirit Siphon is fine for energy management, so no need to take Castigation Signet.

villur · Jun 20, 2010, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Thank you all for your helpful comments. Im currently running like this
OQASEX6S9F7gCFAAAA8VGWCA - me :P
OABDUqdXSLVVBoBbhKglBWCVVA - minion bomber / curser necro
Owgj4shj4OXTMm3kZ64mHU/LGA - SoS Channeling ritualist ( i dont have ritualist hero so im using my monk)
OQMSEX5O2FliQJoEVAA81YC - id swap this for an elementalist but since i dont have any ele skills unlocked i cant use an ele

but anyway, what do you guys think?

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 21, 2010, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by villur

Thank you all for your helpful comments. Im currently running like this
OQASEX6S9F7gCFAAAA8VGWCA - me :P

*"For Great Justice" and Sun and Moon Slash for the optionals.
*PA only if you don't really have anything else.
*Swordsmanship up to 14.

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OABDUqdXSLVVBoBbhKglBWCVVA - minion bomber / curser necro

*Attributes need fixing, obviously.
*Otherwise,

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Owgj4shj4OXTMm3kZ64mHU/LGA - SoS Channeling ritualist ( i dont have ritualist hero so im using my monk)

*Spirit Rift is easily wasted unless you've got good aggro techniques and ball each time. It's a bit clumsy. I don't know how well the AI uses it. I usually throw in Bloodsong instead; maybe it's better.

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OQMSEX5O2FliQJoEVAA81YC - id swap this for an elementalist but since i dont have any ele skills unlocked i cant use an ele

*Atts need fixing (again).
*Looks fairly solid. Resurrect sucks though. Go with one of the Rit rezzes.

villur · Jun 21, 2010, 04:44 PM // 16:44

Im not lvl 20 atm so i can't up all my skills to max