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Old Feb 14, 2011, 10:47 PM // 22:47   #1
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Default Which is the highest damaging warrior in endgame/hardcore mode?

Hi.
I´m slowly getting used to the warrior class,very fun to play!
I am currently playing a warrior with sword skills.
But now i am wondering what Skills do the most damage in endgame and hc mode.
Can someone give me advice?
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Old Feb 14, 2011, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #2
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Hundred Blades easily has the most potential. Builds are in the sticky/on wiki.
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Old Feb 14, 2011, 11:47 PM // 23:47   #3
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Warriors endurance is the most damage, its a warrior that uses a scythe. To look up more builds go to gwpvx.com


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Old Feb 15, 2011, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #4
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Hundred Blades easily has the most potential. Builds are in the sticky/on wiki.
Marty has it pretty dead on. It has the most potential. But if you're wanting single target DPS, your best bet is Dragon Slash. Hundred Blades in and of itself is not effective for single targets, it will generally take Mark of Pain and foes balling for it to be used to full potential. But, if you want high damage for single targets, Dragon Slash or maybe using a scythe would be more effective.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 12:33 AM // 00:33   #5
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100B is kind of overrated since 24 damage results in 10-15 damage unbuffed in HM against 100 armor stuff.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 12:33 AM // 00:33   #6
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Endurance Scythe > Hundred blades > Erf Shakur

Hundred blades build can outdamage WE Scythe only in 100b+whirlwind situations (raptor farm). Kinda useless against high AL hm mobs. They can reduce 23 dmg from HB to 15.

Endurance Scythe for general use.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 12:59 AM // 00:59   #7
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How can I unlearn my secondary class?
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 01:03 AM // 01:03   #8
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You can't. You can change it after getting past certain points in the game (the Augury Rock mission in Prophecies, Nahpui Quarter in Factions, and the primary quest 'Hunted!' in Nightfall).
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 01:49 AM // 01:49   #9
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I always go earthshaker. Sure Hundred Blades has the potential to trigger some hexes and enchantments. But area of effect knockdowns are invaluable, not to mention also having high dps.

Here's a skill template: OQASE5JTiFgFhF7gXF8VGWAA

Also, this thread has been posted 0283502835 times.

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You can't. You can change it after getting past certain points in the game (the Augury Rock mission in Prophecies, Nahpui Quarter in Factions, and the primary quest 'Hunted!' in Nightfall).
After you finish the above listed quest/mission that corresponds with the campaign your character was created in, there's an NPC in Great Temple of Balthazar who will sell you secondary professions for 500g. After purchasing, you can change them whenever you want to using the "Skills and Attributes" page in game (hotkey K)

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Old Feb 15, 2011, 02:11 AM // 02:11   #10
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Nobody has said Enduring Daggers (which is also on gwpvx). Enduring Scythe can do more damage if you are always hitting 3 foes at a time, but I find that for most cases enduring daggers is better since the single target damage is much greater and it does decent AoE as well.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 05:03 AM // 05:03   #11
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Do keep in mind that whatever your build, you want your group tp stack as many +damage buffs on yourself as possible to become a true powerhouse. You aren't a HM warrior unless you are hitting for +60 armor ignoring damage every attack (and/or AoE raping groups with splinter weapon).
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 06:03 AM // 06:03   #12
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100B is kind of overrated since 24 damage results in 10-15 damage unbuffed in HM against 100 armor stuff.
Let's go even lower, say it's only 5 bonus damage.

Throw in ebon vanguard battle standard of honor, that's 20 bonus damage. on every hit. in AoE.

Then combine that with whirlwind attack, and let's say... Oh, 5 enemies. 100 bonus damage on each.

And let's not forget the synergy with barbs/mark of pain :P


EDIT : Here's your choices folks.
AoE damage -> 100b.
single-target damage and knocklock -> Dragon Slash
AoE knocklock -> Erf shakurr

Everything else is bad.

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I always go earthshaker.Here's a skill template: OQASE5JTiFgFhF7gXF8VGWAA
Weird arrangement of skills imo, but more than that, where's lion's comfort, and why do you bother with enraging charge ._. That, and personally I'd rather use belly smash for AoE blind with your AoE knocklock, let someone else worry about deep wound.

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Old Feb 15, 2011, 06:18 AM // 06:18   #13
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Let's go even lower, say it's only 5 bonus damage.

Throw in ebon vanguard battle standard of honor, that's 20 bonus damage. on every hit. in AoE.

Then combine that with whirlwind attack, and let's say... Oh, 5 enemies. 100 bonus damage on each.

And let's not forget the synergy with barbs/mark of pain :P


EDIT : Here's your choices folks.
AoE damage -> 100b.
single-target damage and knocklock -> Dragon Slash
AoE knocklock -> Erf shakurr



Everything else is bad.



Weird arrangement of skills imo, but more than that, where's lion's comfort, and why do you bother with enraging charge ._. That, and personally I'd rather use belly smash for AoE blind with your AoE knocklock, let someone else worry about deep wound.
Well if were going to talk about other things that add to damage.
W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain + Splinter Weapon + Spamming energy attack skills with a weapon with that hits 3 targets with a weapons that average damage is above the swords max damage. Also, doesn't have to wait 10 sec in between recharges.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 06:54 AM // 06:54   #14
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W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain
Aura of Holy Might currently changes damage to holy, which means no triggers from Barbs, Mark of Pain, or Orders.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 06:57 AM // 06:57   #15
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Well if were going to talk about other things that add to damage.
W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain + Splinter Weapon + Spamming energy attack skills with a weapon with that hits 3 targets with a weapons that average damage is above the swords max damage. Also, doesn't have to wait 10 sec in between recharges.
True, but if you were going to such lengths to achieve the highest damage you could get, you may as well go Me/D with 12 scythe and 16 illusion, so that you can use signet of illusions, arcane echo, and arcane mimicry to have...

Vow of strength, Spirit's strength, Great Dwarf Weapon, By ural's hammer, ebon battle standard of honor, aura of holy might, asuran scan, strength of honor, etc etc. Me/D getting vow and spirit's strength > W/D, but either one of those is albeit silly.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 06:59 AM // 06:59   #16
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Well if were going to talk about other things that add to damage.
W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain + Splinter Weapon + Spamming energy attack skills with a weapon with that hits 3 targets with a weapons that average damage is above the swords max damage.
If only those all combo'd together.

Barbs is hardly worth it with just a single scythe in your party anyway. EBSoH applies to all of the bonus 100b ticks so it does much more for 100b than scythe.

All of 100b's potential comes from whirlwinding into an MoP'd mob. Its capabilities depend on how much balling you're able to do, microing MoP in the right spot and executing, and timing all of this well so the 20s recharge doesn't keep you down. (Unless you have an AP friend...) If you do though it's very hard to compete with MoP triggering for every single adjacent foe.

The Op who has to ask this kind of question is frankly better off with simple scythes at this point though. Check out 100b + MoP combos when you get bored and want something more challenging and potentially rewarding.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 08:30 AM // 08:30   #17
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Why are so many people recommending Dragon Slash?
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 10:58 AM // 10:58   #18
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Only run Hundred Blades if you have a Curses necro with you. Barbs and Mark of Pain make it worthwhile, but it's shit on it's own.

Dragon Slash is baws, Arrogant usuck.

And Enduring scythe/cyclone axe.
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Old Feb 15, 2011, 01:43 PM // 13:43   #19
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Let's go even lower, say it's only 5 bonus damage.

Throw in ebon vanguard battle standard of honor, that's 20 bonus damage. on every hit. in AoE.

Then combine that with whirlwind attack, and let's say... Oh, 5 enemies. 100 bonus damage on each.

And let's not forget the synergy with barbs/mark of pain :P


EDIT : Here's your choices folks.
AoE damage -> 100b.
single-target damage and knocklock -> Dragon Slash
AoE knocklock -> Erf shakurr

Everything else is bad.
100B is still overrated. You lose out on the strongest warrior abilities (knock down and deep wound) unless you use some PvE skills like Brawling headbutt and Finish Him! (which is impractical due to 10 energy).

When I run 100B without buffs, it's rather underwhelming. (12+1+1Sword, 12+1 Strength: Enraging charge, 100B, Whirlwind, Sun&Moon, Flail, FGJ!,SY!/IaU!,BuH!). It's gimmicky since the only real impressive damage is with Whirlwind due to the damage multiplier. To push a respectable 48 damage you need something like 12 damage with 4 mobs (basically 100 armor mobs will get 12 damage, even grasping darknesses take only 11 slashing). In your example, you're counting 15 damage per hit from EBSoH which is something you don't see many players bring and it is on 20 cooldown. A bar without Whirlwind attack is much less usable than a Dragonslash or even a Eviscerate shock axe (fully PvP legal skills on the entire bar) in HM because even with Sun&Moon, the damage is armor-affected.

For FoWSC, it's pretty much since EBSoH, Mark of Pain (and huge mob balling) that push the damage.

With a hammer or axe bar, you can just bring crushing blow/pulverizing smash/dismember.

The saving grace is with an IAS, I get damage output even when blind/miss hexed for a few seconds (I run blind rune and blind shield).

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Old Feb 15, 2011, 03:53 PM // 15:53   #20
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I run earth Shaker as well, having a 3 second AoE KD is much better than putting that damage out; Especially in situations where there are 2-3 healers in a group.

People are recommending dragon slayer cause you can put out the most single target damage while gaining so much adrenaline to perma spam "Save Yourselves"

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