Feb 14, 2011, 11:21 PM // 23:21
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Hundred Blades easily has the most potential. Builds are in the sticky/on wiki.
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Feb 14, 2011, 11:47 PM // 23:47
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Profession: W/A
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Warriors endurance is the most damage, its a warrior that uses a scythe. To look up more builds go to gwpvx.com
amazing site with tons of builds
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Feb 15, 2011, 12:01 AM // 00:01
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Site Contributor
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Atlanta
Guild: [LIFE]
Profession: P/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Hundred Blades easily has the most potential. Builds are in the sticky/on wiki.
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Marty has it pretty dead on. It has the most potential. But if you're wanting single target DPS, your best bet is Dragon Slash. Hundred Blades in and of itself is not effective for single targets, it will generally take Mark of Pain and foes balling for it to be used to full potential. But, if you want high damage for single targets, Dragon Slash or maybe using a scythe would be more effective.
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Feb 15, 2011, 12:33 AM // 00:33
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: in the midline
Profession: E/Mo
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100B is kind of overrated since 24 damage results in 10-15 damage unbuffed in HM against 100 armor stuff.
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Feb 15, 2011, 12:33 AM // 00:33
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Profession: W/D
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Endurance Scythe > Hundred blades > Erf Shakur
Hundred blades build can outdamage WE Scythe only in 100b+whirlwind situations (raptor farm). Kinda useless against high AL hm mobs. They can reduce 23 dmg from HB to 15.
Endurance Scythe for general use.
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Feb 15, 2011, 12:59 AM // 00:59
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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How can I unlearn my secondary class?
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Feb 15, 2011, 01:03 AM // 01:03
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Administrator
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You can't. You can change it after getting past certain points in the game (the Augury Rock mission in Prophecies, Nahpui Quarter in Factions, and the primary quest 'Hunted!' in Nightfall).
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Feb 15, 2011, 01:49 AM // 01:49
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: CST / UTC -6
Guild: In Memorium [iBot]
Profession: W/P
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I always go earthshaker. Sure Hundred Blades has the potential to trigger some hexes and enchantments. But area of effect knockdowns are invaluable, not to mention also having high dps.
Here's a skill template: OQASE5JTiFgFhF7gXF8VGWAA
Also, this thread has been posted 0283502835 times.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
You can't. You can change it after getting past certain points in the game (the Augury Rock mission in Prophecies, Nahpui Quarter in Factions, and the primary quest 'Hunted!' in Nightfall).
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After you finish the above listed quest/mission that corresponds with the campaign your character was created in, there's an NPC in Great Temple of Balthazar who will sell you secondary professions for 500g. After purchasing, you can change them whenever you want to using the "Skills and Attributes" page in game (hotkey K)
Last edited by The Baphomet; Feb 15, 2011 at 01:52 AM // 01:52..
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Feb 15, 2011, 02:11 AM // 02:11
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: The Legends Of Melee [SSBM]
Profession: Mo/
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Nobody has said Enduring Daggers (which is also on gwpvx). Enduring Scythe can do more damage if you are always hitting 3 foes at a time, but I find that for most cases enduring daggers is better since the single target damage is much greater and it does decent AoE as well.
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Feb 15, 2011, 05:03 AM // 05:03
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Desert Nomad
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Do keep in mind that whatever your build, you want your group tp stack as many +damage buffs on yourself as possible to become a true powerhouse. You aren't a HM warrior unless you are hitting for +60 armor ignoring damage every attack (and/or AoE raping groups with splinter weapon).
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Feb 15, 2011, 06:03 AM // 06:03
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#12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: California
Guild: [Vr]
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
100B is kind of overrated since 24 damage results in 10-15 damage unbuffed in HM against 100 armor stuff.
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Let's go even lower, say it's only 5 bonus damage.
Throw in ebon vanguard battle standard of honor, that's 20 bonus damage. on every hit. in AoE.
Then combine that with whirlwind attack, and let's say... Oh, 5 enemies. 100 bonus damage on each.
And let's not forget the synergy with barbs/mark of pain :P
EDIT : Here's your choices folks.
AoE damage -> 100b.
single-target damage and knocklock -> Dragon Slash
AoE knocklock -> Erf shakurr
Everything else is bad.
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Originally Posted by The Baphomet
I always go earthshaker.Here's a skill template: OQASE5JTiFgFhF7gXF8VGWAA
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Weird arrangement of skills imo, but more than that, where's lion's comfort, and why do you bother with enraging charge ._. That, and personally I'd rather use belly smash for AoE blind with your AoE knocklock, let someone else worry about deep wound.
Last edited by Daisuko; Feb 15, 2011 at 06:08 AM // 06:08..
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Feb 15, 2011, 06:18 AM // 06:18
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Profession: E/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daisuko
Let's go even lower, say it's only 5 bonus damage.
Throw in ebon vanguard battle standard of honor, that's 20 bonus damage. on every hit. in AoE.
Then combine that with whirlwind attack, and let's say... Oh, 5 enemies. 100 bonus damage on each.
And let's not forget the synergy with barbs/mark of pain :P
EDIT : Here's your choices folks.
AoE damage -> 100b.
single-target damage and knocklock -> Dragon Slash
AoE knocklock -> Erf shakurr
Everything else is bad.
Weird arrangement of skills imo, but more than that, where's lion's comfort, and why do you bother with enraging charge ._. That, and personally I'd rather use belly smash for AoE blind with your AoE knocklock, let someone else worry about deep wound.
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Well if were going to talk about other things that add to damage.
W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain + Splinter Weapon + Spamming energy attack skills with a weapon with that hits 3 targets with a weapons that average damage is above the swords max damage. Also, doesn't have to wait 10 sec in between recharges.
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Feb 15, 2011, 06:54 AM // 06:54
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy
Guild: [ban]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain
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Aura of Holy Might currently changes damage to holy, which means no triggers from Barbs, Mark of Pain, or Orders.
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Feb 15, 2011, 06:57 AM // 06:57
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: California
Guild: [Vr]
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
Well if were going to talk about other things that add to damage.
W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain + Splinter Weapon + Spamming energy attack skills with a weapon with that hits 3 targets with a weapons that average damage is above the swords max damage. Also, doesn't have to wait 10 sec in between recharges.
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True, but if you were going to such lengths to achieve the highest damage you could get, you may as well go Me/D with 12 scythe and 16 illusion, so that you can use signet of illusions, arcane echo, and arcane mimicry to have...
Vow of strength, Spirit's strength, Great Dwarf Weapon, By ural's hammer, ebon battle standard of honor, aura of holy might, asuran scan, strength of honor, etc etc. Me/D getting vow and spirit's strength > W/D, but either one of those is albeit silly.
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Feb 15, 2011, 06:59 AM // 06:59
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Amazon Basin [AB]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
Well if were going to talk about other things that add to damage.
W/D Asuran Scan + EBSoH + Aura of Holy Might + Strength of Honor + Barbs + Mark of Pain + Splinter Weapon + Spamming energy attack skills with a weapon with that hits 3 targets with a weapons that average damage is above the swords max damage.
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If only those all combo'd together.
Barbs is hardly worth it with just a single scythe in your party anyway. EBSoH applies to all of the bonus 100b ticks so it does much more for 100b than scythe.
All of 100b's potential comes from whirlwinding into an MoP'd mob. Its capabilities depend on how much balling you're able to do, microing MoP in the right spot and executing, and timing all of this well so the 20s recharge doesn't keep you down. (Unless you have an AP friend...) If you do though it's very hard to compete with MoP triggering for every single adjacent foe.
The Op who has to ask this kind of question is frankly better off with simple scythes at this point though. Check out 100b + MoP combos when you get bored and want something more challenging and potentially rewarding.
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Feb 15, 2011, 08:30 AM // 08:30
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#17
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Your mom's house
Profession: E/
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Why are so many people recommending Dragon Slash?
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Feb 15, 2011, 10:58 AM // 10:58
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2008
Location: East Anglia, UK
Guild: Order of [Thay]
Profession: N/
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Only run Hundred Blades if you have a Curses necro with you. Barbs and Mark of Pain make it worthwhile, but it's shit on it's own.
Dragon Slash is baws, Arrogant usuck.
And Enduring scythe/cyclone axe.
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Feb 15, 2011, 01:43 PM // 13:43
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#19
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: in the midline
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daisuko
Let's go even lower, say it's only 5 bonus damage.
Throw in ebon vanguard battle standard of honor, that's 20 bonus damage. on every hit. in AoE.
Then combine that with whirlwind attack, and let's say... Oh, 5 enemies. 100 bonus damage on each.
And let's not forget the synergy with barbs/mark of pain :P
EDIT : Here's your choices folks.
AoE damage -> 100b.
single-target damage and knocklock -> Dragon Slash
AoE knocklock -> Erf shakurr
Everything else is bad.
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100B is still overrated. You lose out on the strongest warrior abilities (knock down and deep wound) unless you use some PvE skills like Brawling headbutt and Finish Him! (which is impractical due to 10 energy).
When I run 100B without buffs, it's rather underwhelming. (12+1+1Sword, 12+1 Strength: Enraging charge, 100B, Whirlwind, Sun&Moon, Flail, FGJ!,SY!/IaU!,BuH!). It's gimmicky since the only real impressive damage is with Whirlwind due to the damage multiplier. To push a respectable 48 damage you need something like 12 damage with 4 mobs (basically 100 armor mobs will get 12 damage, even grasping darknesses take only 11 slashing). In your example, you're counting 15 damage per hit from EBSoH which is something you don't see many players bring and it is on 20 cooldown. A bar without Whirlwind attack is much less usable than a Dragonslash or even a Eviscerate shock axe (fully PvP legal skills on the entire bar) in HM because even with Sun&Moon, the damage is armor-affected.
For FoWSC, it's pretty much since EBSoH, Mark of Pain (and huge mob balling) that push the damage.
With a hammer or axe bar, you can just bring crushing blow/pulverizing smash/dismember.
The saving grace is with an IAS, I get damage output even when blind/miss hexed for a few seconds (I run blind rune and blind shield).
Last edited by LifeInfusion; Feb 15, 2011 at 02:09 PM // 14:09..
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Feb 15, 2011, 03:53 PM // 15:53
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#20
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Profession: W/A
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I run earth Shaker as well, having a 3 second AoE KD is much better than putting that damage out; Especially in situations where there are 2-3 healers in a group.
People are recommending dragon slayer cause you can put out the most single target damage while gaining so much adrenaline to perma spam "Save Yourselves"
Last edited by North Dragon Slayer; Feb 15, 2011 at 03:55 PM // 15:55..
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